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birding-aus Digest, Vol 61, Issue 34

To: "Andrew Thelander" <>
Subject: birding-aus Digest, Vol 61, Issue 34
From: Carl Clifford <>
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 19:24:47 +1000
One of the chemotypes of Camphor Laurel contain reasonable levels of Safrole, which is a precursor in the manufacture of MDMA (Ecstasy). Perhaps there is something in the gut chemistry or flora which finishes the job. I must admit though, my knowledge of amphetamine manufacture is a bit rusty these days.

Cheers,

Carl Clifford


On 24/04/2011, at 6:24 PM, Andrew Thelander wrote:

I agree - it does point to that and I am sure there are studies showing that topknots do eat camphor laurel and disperse the seed (one such study was at the Big Scrub in northern NSW). My books are all packed away at the moment
but I googled "topknot pigeon camphor laurel" and found this posted on
www.camphorlaurel.com <http://www.camphorlaurel.com/>

Topknot Pigeons; instances involving multiple-death events have been
repeatedly observed on and near roadsides, in both Lismore and Kyogle Shire,
but always being found dead directly underneath the canopies of
ripe-fruiting Camphor laurel trees; in one case, only Camphor laurel berries
were found in the stomach and crop upon dissection. Some birds retained
distinctly purple-stained beaks. These are the first records of this, the
largest of all native rainforest pigeon species succumbing to the toxins
contained in the berries and seeds of Camphor laurel. Other reports, by
notable bush regenerators, and seed collectors . centre on the occasional
apparent 'drunkenness' caused to many species of native pigeons, after
gorging themselves on (excess volumes) of ripe or over-ripe Camphor laurel
berries.

It would be interesting to review the primary data for the above -
particularly any multiple death events. I am not aware of any such
discoveries on the Sunshine Coast.

Andrew



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From: Greg Roberts 
Sent: Sunday, 24 April 2011 4:39 PM
To: 'Andrew Thelander'
Cc: 
Subject: birding-aus Digest, Vol 61, Issue 34



Andrew

All of this points circumstantially but pointedly to the Topknots feeding on camphor laurels. As with the White-headed Pigeons, these introduced pests
may in fact be in important part of their diet in this era of depleted
habitat.

Greg



From: Andrew Thelander 
Sent: Sunday, 24 April 2011 4:27 PM
To: 'Greg Roberts'
Cc: 'Birding-aus'
Subject: birding-aus Digest, Vol 61, Issue 34



Hi Greg

I personally can't recall ever seeing Topknots feeding in camphor laurels but that is most likely me not getting out birding enough! I suspect you are right as the camphor laurels are fruiting and most of the figs I came across
yesterday weren't. Beside the tennis centre in Nambour, there is a huge
camphor laurel that fills with White-headed pigeons when in fruit. They were
there yesterday with the normal figbirds - the flock of topknots settled
into some eucalypts several hundred metres away. I was waiting for them to fly in for a feed but they didn't. I postulate that their willingness to put up with human activity in the vicinity depends a lot on how hungry they are. I believe some turned up in an orchard in Tasmania and could be approached very closely simply because they were ravenous. At times I have seen them in a forest setting and they have been quite skittish. At other times, I have been able to stand near the base of a tree and observe them feeding in it
(e.g. the famous Pigeonberry ash tree near Traveston).

Perhaps others may have some personal insights to share? Is camphor laurel a food of preference for topknots or just something to fall back on until the
natives start fruiting? How approachable are topknots? Have they ever
visited a feeding table (like white-headed pigeons readily do)?

Cheers

Andrew



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From: 
On Behalf Of Greg Roberts
Sent: Sunday, 24 April 2011 1:01 PM
To: 
Subject: birding-aus Digest, Vol 61, Issue 34



Regarding Andrew's note about Topknot Pigeons. Over the past couple of weeks I've seen unusually large numbers of Topknot Pigeons in the Sunshine Coast lowlands, especially about the Maroochy River and its tributaries. I suspect it has something to do with camphor laurel fruiting and would appreciate any
suggestions.
Also, last night I had great views of a Sooty Owl in the Mapleton Forest
Reserve.
Greg Roberts

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Hi all


A tour through the Mt Mellum area of the Sunshine Coast hinterland today
resulted in some nice sightings including at least ten Barred cuckoo- shrikes in a fruiting Ficus obliqua (my spies tell me there were double that number in the tree just 2 weeks ago). Also observed a male Regent bowerbird feeding in a Polyscias elegans. Other species seen included Grey goshawk, Emerald dove, Catbird, King parrot, Brown cuckoo-dove, Varied triller and Chestnut
breasted manikins feeding young.""
Back in Nambour, there was a flock of 30 Topknot pigeons.



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