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Duck shooting poll

To: 'Chris Gregory' <>, 'birdingaus mailing list' <>
Subject: Duck shooting poll
From: Peter Shute <>
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 09:18:12 +1100
No, the old "full" season was 12 weeks. I forget what last year's was, but it 
was way less than 12 weeks.

The No vote beat the Yes vote this time, by 8%, and there were about 7600 
votes. Last year's poll had the Yes vote ahead by 40%.

Peter Shute

> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
>  On Behalf Of Chris Gregory
> Sent: Friday, 14 January 2011 12:05 AM
> To: birdingaus mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Duck shooting poll
>
> I do hate these polls, These questions fall into the category
> of ambiguity
> like "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?" . Yes or No
> you can't win.
>
> How do I know what the question "Do you believe the duck season should
> return to a full 12 weeks?"means?
>
> I'm from NSW so I don't know what length the duck shooting
> season is in Vic
> but I assume, from the question, it is longer than 12 weeks,
> say 24 weeks.
> In which case if I'm anti duck shooting a "return to 12
> weeks" is better
> than 24 weeks. So my answer is "Yes".
>
> I voted "No" though!
>
> Chris Gregory
>
> On 13 January 2011 17:06, Peter Shute <> wrote:
>
> > Let's not start this discussion again. Do you recall the
> similar poll a
> > year ago, when we also discussed possible rigging of it? In
> that poll, there
> > were 10s of thousands of votes cast both in favour and
> against. Either both
> > sides got themselves incredibly well organised, or someone
> on each side was
> > rigging it.
> >
> > Several of us received vaguely threatening emails from a
> hunter who had
> > seen the discussion in the archives.
> >
> > At least this one is close, and there are reasonable nubers
> of votes. Just
> > vote and forget it.
> >
> > Peter Shute
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: 
> > >  On Behalf Of
> Carl Clifford
> > > Sent: Thursday, 13 January 2011 4:48 PM
> > > To: Debbie Lustig
> > > Cc: birding-aus
> > > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Duck shooting poll
> > >
> > > It is amazingly easy in this poll to vote multiple times. You just
> > > have to vote, open your browser's preferences, then
> remove the "The
> > > Age" cookie, go back to the voting page, vote, then remove
> > > the cookie,
> > > ad infinitum. You could even write a script to do it all for
> > > you. The
> > > results of the poll are therefore worthless, as it is so easily
> > > tampered with.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Carl Clifford
> > >
> > >
> > > On 13/01/2011, at 4:21 PM, Debbie Lustig wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Today's Age newspaper has an online poll asking:
> > > Do you believe the duck season should return to a full 12 weeks?
> > >
> > > http://www.theage.com.au/polls/victoria/duck-season/20110112-1
> > > 9o1j.html
> > >
> > > Please vote 'NO'. The poll closes at 6 pm.
> > >
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