It's a case of political lists vs biogeographical lists.
I suspect that relatively few birders maintain both types of list.
On 09/01/2011, at 11:56 AM, david taylor wrote:
Another who agrees - I would love to bird Christmas Island and the
Cocos Islands but this recent notion that they are part of the
Australian bird list is in my opinion flawed - they may be
Australian Territories but are vast distances from Australia,
Surley just because they are Australian territories does not make
them Australian birds?
I pose the scenario that if next year a country in South America
became an Australian Territory that some of our twitchers would be
adding Toucans to the Australian list - this may seem silly but in
reality what is the difference in the two scenarios. I struggle too
see how distance can form the basis of the argument? Cocos islands
are 3600 kms due west of Darwin. Darwin to Thailand is less distance
- if it became a territory would we be adding all of their birds?
I would be interested to hear the attitude of those who do believe
these birds are valid on the Australian list because they are
Australian Territories and if so what would be the difference if
indeed we gained a new territory in a place like Sth America or Asia?
And as Tom points out - do the French birders add New Caledonia
birds because its a territory of theirs?
Seems its great sport for our twitchers (and absolutely nothing
wrong with that) - but a long bow for mine that they form part of
the Australian bird list.
But each to his own and great birding all.
cheers
David Taylor
On 09/01/2011, at 10:32 AM, Carl Clifford wrote:
Tom,
I heartily agree. You could almost say that birding on Christmas
and Cocos was SE Asian birding for xenophobes, except for the fact
that the population of Cocos is mainly Malay and the population of
Christmas is mainly Middle Eastern, albeit they are banged-up in a
concentration camp
Cheers,
Carl Clifford
On 09/01/2011, at 7:38 AM, Tom Tarrant wrote:
Hi Frank,
I think you are missing the point regarding that comment, as
exciting as
Christmas and Cocos sound (I would love to go birding there!) they
are not
in the same faunal zone as Australia so many birders don't see the
relevance. You may as well go New Caledonia and add those species
to your
'French' list.
Tom
And I remember there was a comment about the possible Short-toed
Eagle in
Victoria being better than the rarities reported on Cocos and
Christmas in
December. Sorry. Not even close!!! I saw 11 new birds for my
Australian
list, and I dipped on two. Even Mike Carter added 9 birds to his
Australian
list.
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