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Cocos & Christmas Island Rarities

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Subject: Cocos & Christmas Island Rarities
From: david taylor <>
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 11:56:06 +1000
Another who agrees - I would love to bird Christmas Island and the Cocos 
Islands but this recent notion that they are part of the Australian bird list 
is in my opinion flawed - they may be Australian Territories but are vast 
distances from Australia,  Surley just because they are Australian territories 
does not make them Australian birds?

I pose the scenario that if next year a country in South America became an 
Australian Territory that some of our twitchers would be adding Toucans to the 
Australian list - this may seem silly but in reality what is the difference in 
the two scenarios. I struggle too see how distance can form the basis of the 
argument? Cocos islands are 3600 kms due west of Darwin. Darwin to Thailand is 
less distance - if it became a territory would we be adding all of their birds?

I would be interested to hear the attitude of those who do believe these birds 
are valid on the Australian list because they are Australian Territories and if 
so what would be the difference if indeed we gained a new territory in a place 
like Sth America or Asia?

And as Tom points out - do the French birders add New Caledonia birds because 
its a territory of theirs?

Seems its great sport for our twitchers (and absolutely nothing wrong with 
that) - but a long bow for mine that they form part of the Australian bird list.

But each to his own and great birding all.

cheers

David Taylor



On 09/01/2011, at 10:32 AM, Carl Clifford wrote:

> Tom,
>
> I heartily agree. You could almost say that birding on Christmas and Cocos 
> was SE Asian birding for xenophobes, except for the fact that the population 
> of Cocos is mainly Malay and the population of Christmas is mainly Middle 
> Eastern, albeit they are banged-up in a concentration camp
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carl Clifford
>
>
> On 09/01/2011, at 7:38 AM, Tom Tarrant wrote:
>
> Hi Frank,
>
> I think you are missing the point regarding that comment, as exciting as
> Christmas and Cocos sound (I would love to go birding there!) they are not
> in the same faunal zone as Australia so many birders don't see the
> relevance. You may as well go New Caledonia and add those species to your
> 'French' list.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>> And I remember there was a comment about the possible Short-toed Eagle in
>> Victoria being better than the rarities reported on Cocos and Christmas in
>> December.  Sorry.  Not even close!!!  I saw 11 new birds for my Australian
>> list, and I dipped on two.  Even Mike Carter added 9 birds to his Australian
>> list.
>>
>>
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