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Cocos & Christmas Island Rarities

To: Laurie Knight <>
Subject: Cocos & Christmas Island Rarities
From: Carl Clifford <>
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 12:52:23 +1100
Any one who stays overnight can be said to be resident at a certain
place for that time, so I guess all of the below are included as
resident. This is good enough for the Australian Census, so it is good enough for me.

As to "including all the vagrants exciting the twitchers", well, as
they are physically present on Cocos and Christmas, they must be
included in the local population, otherwise they become an avian
equivalent of Schrödinger's Cat.

If people want to spend their money going of to C&C to chase vagrants, fine, it is their money. I prefer to see the vagrants at home, where I can spend more time watching their behaviour. I don't worry about how how many species I see, I am not even sure how many I have seen (somewhere over 2,000 I think). I guess I am not kiasu enough to be a gun birder.

Cheers,

Carl Clifford


On 09/01/2011, at 12:16 PM, Laurie Knight wrote:

How long do you have to reside at a place before you are considered to be part of the population? Do you include tourists and short-term
foreign students?  I'm not sure what the average "half-life" of
internment on Christmas Island is.  The long-term residents of
Christmas Island are made up of three ethnic groups: Chinese, Malays
and mainland Australians.

Shifting the focus of attention to the birds, would you include all
the vagrants exciting the twitchers in the bird populations of Xmas
and CCK Islands?

LK

On 09/01/2011, at 10:32 AM, Carl Clifford wrote:

Tom,

I heartily agree. You could almost say that birding on Christmas and Cocos was SE Asian birding for xenophobes, except for the fact that the population of Cocos is mainly Malay and the population of
Christmas is mainly Middle Eastern, albeit they are banged-up in a
concentration camp

Cheers,

Carl Clifford


On 09/01/2011, at 7:38 AM, Tom Tarrant wrote:

Hi Frank,

I think you are missing the point regarding that comment, as
exciting as
Christmas and Cocos sound (I would love to go birding there!) they
are not
in the same faunal zone as Australia so many birders don't see the
relevance. You may as well go New Caledonia and add those species to your
'French' list.

Tom



And I remember there was a comment about the possible Short-toed
Eagle in
Victoria being better than the rarities reported on Cocos and
Christmas in
December.  Sorry.  Not even close!!!  I saw 11 new birds for my
Australian
list, and I dipped on two.  Even Mike Carter added 9 birds to his
Australian
list.


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