Simon,
Birders are "banned" from entering all private property, unless
invited or otherwise, by the owners. This whole situation has stemmed
from birders entering private property without invitation. Lets be
honest, those birders perpetrated a crime, trespass on private lands.
It is no different than if a bunch of strangers set up camp in ones
back yard. Bigger back yard, same principle. I know what I would do if
I found some-one camped in my back yard.
I think the traditional owners have behaved in a restrained manner and
hopefully over time a protocol can be worked out for speedier
processing of permits for entering Aboriginal lands. Unfortunately,
we, as birders, now have a bit of lost ground to regain in the process.
Carl Clifford
On 05/10/2010, at 9:34 AM, Simon Mustoe wrote:
If there are connotations of racism or 'blame' in this article, I
guess it's got nothing to do with birding or birders. So putting those
other matters aside and just looking at it's mention that the
indigenous community has lost out - isn't this interesting to birders?
Since the Princess Parrot debacle, this is the first time that anyone
in the Australian media has questioned whether banning birders
outright was actually the best option. That would seem to me, to be a
very reasonable hypothesis. So on that point, I think this should be
of interest to birders and at least someone has had the gumption to
mention it.
Remember, this article was written by a journalist ... not by Bird-O -
so don't shoot the messenger ; ) ... this is me ducking!
All the best,
Simon.
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 07:31:15 +0930
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Ashmore Reef information
From:
To: ; ;
If the NT News really wanted a more accurate target they should be
looking
towards the government department that helped sink my relatives'
tourism
project on Baby Dreaming. For example, elders were told (as was I)
that
they needed a "Certificate 4 in training" (cost - several thousand
dollars
for each person), to teach particular skills to others.
Also, a Scandinavian birding tour operator offered the community a
donation
of a couple of thousand dollars to train residents to show visitors
sandstone birds. My relatives were very excited. But the money had
to go
through a birding or conservation organisation. A Birds Australia
spokesman
told me it was 'too little' to be worth their while. And then
there's the
debacle of the latest effort to train Indigenous bird guides in
Kakadu.
There's plenty of blame to go around, but very little of it should be
directed at Aboriginal people.
Denise
on 5/10/10 7:15 AM, Bill Stent at wrote:
Simon, I'm not sure that "useful" is quite the word that I'd use to
describe
the NT News article.
"Racist" might be closer. Possibly "patronising" if I were feeling
more
conciliatory.
Not a good hook to get readers to Bird-o.
Bill
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From: "Simon Mustoe" <>
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 8:28 AM
To: <>
Subject: [Birding-Aus] Ashmore Reef information
Hi,
ASHMORE REEF
Ashmore reef trips are nearly upon us so we've put together
information
for you, on this remarkable place. If you visit Bird-O and go to
"Birding
REGIONS" in the top menu, you'll find access to a page about
Ashmore Reef
and the NW Shelf. You can see images from past trips, read about its
history and the birds that have been seen there. There's also new
article
which summarises the birding highlights from the last 14 trips and
information on how you can plan your trip to Ashmore Reef next year.
CENTRAL AUSTRALIA
There's another regional page set up for Central Aus. This is a
way to
support our growing birding tour industry so email us if you're
interested
in being part.
OUTBACK HAS UNSEEN BUCKS
Also of interest, an article in NT News titled "Outback has Unseen
Bucks" - a useful follow-up to the recent Princess Parrot debarcle.
http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=%23birdonews
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Happy birding!
Simon.
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