Comments on NZ Stormy in Wildiaries

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Subject: Comments on NZ Stormy in Wildiaries
From: Simon Mustoe <>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 08:10:15 +0000

Just so people are aware, we are not talking about a forum in the conventional 
sense and we are not talking about something that will compete with 
birding-aus. We understand that birding-aus serves a specific and important 
function, and this is designed to compliment rather than compete. It is worth 
taking a look to see how it works and how the resulting information (rich in 
content and knowledge) will be very interesting as birding-aussies receive an 
email about pages that are created.

Discussion about other matters in the email below will continue offline.


Simon Mustoe and Chris Sanderson.

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> Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Comments on NZ Stormy in Wildiaries
> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:46:11 +1100
> Hi Simon and Chris (and birding-aussers)
> I think that your site,, is good - information seems pretty
> easily accessible and it's great that photos can be posted.
> However, one thing that I have campaigned for quite strongly over the last
> while is for one centralised point of information. Admittedly my campaigning
> has been around the Birdlines, and I continue to push that point as strongly
> as I can without annoying people (I hope!)
> To be blunt, I have an issue with the direction that you are taking with
> bird-o currently, in particular these email forums that you have set up. The
> problem is that it has the potential to take the discussion away from
> birding-aus. In other words, there may well be two completely separate
> streams of communication going on - one on birding-aus and the other on
> bird-o, on the same subject. This is a significant problem, and one that our
> New Zealand cousins are dealing with currently - they have both a reasonably
> active web-site and a reasonably active mailing list with very limited
> connection between the two.
> I hope that you'll take these comments on board - as constructive criticism,
> not as an attack on what you're doing. I don't have all the answers by any
> means, but I definitely don't want to see the birding community divided by
> technology. I'd rather see the technology used to unite us.
> Paul Dodd
> Docklands, Victoria
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
>  On Behalf Of Simon Mustoe
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2010 5:22 PM
> To: 
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Comments on NZ Stormy in Wildiaries
> Hi,
> I thought I should mention a software update to Wildiaries that may be of
> use here.
> You now have the ability to trigger small email sub-forums by simply leaving
> a comment on a trip or image.  For example, the pictures of the Storm-petrel
> at:
> Everyone who comments will receive emails about all the other comments
> subsequently left in the chain (until you choose to opt out by clicking
> "stop email notifications"). For instance, I've added some comments based on
> what has been said today. This way, a paper trail of discussions is kept.
> Errant or abusive comments can be deleted by the owner (I can add others to
> this trip to manage this) and the comment trail closed down when it is
> complete. This not only promotes the contributions made by the trip owner
> but guarantees that the final information is held in one place. The only
> catch is that you have to be signed in - which is no different to signing up
> for this forum.
> Regards,
> Simon.
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