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Identifying bird groups in need of a name change

To: Nikolas Haass <>, L&L Knight <>, "Birding-aus (E-mail)" <>
Subject: Identifying bird groups in need of a name change
From: Peter Shute <>
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:51:44 +1100
Silly me for believing the first site Google listed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nikolas Haass 
Sent: Thursday, 26 November 2009 1:49 PM
To: Peter Shute; L&L Knight; Birding-aus (E-mail)
Subject: Identifying bird groups in need of a name change

Almost, Peter!!!
One-HAND-motor-chain-saw-operator's-instruction-course-participating-certificate

Nikolas

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Nikolas Haass

Sydney, NSW



----- Original Message ----
From: Peter Shute <>
To: L&L Knight <>; Birding-aus (E-mail) 
<>
Sent: Thu, November 26, 2009 1:24:35 PM
Subject: Identifying bird groups in need of a name change

Is a cuckoo-shrike inappropriately named?  It's neither a cuckoo nor a shrike, 
but doesn't the addition of the hyphen create a new name that can be applied to 
a bird that's neither of those?

It might be a mouthful, but compare it to the German practice of creating new 
words just by joining words together, e.g. 
Einhandmotorkettensägenführerlehrgangsteilnahmebestätigung.  (Someone might be 
having me on, but I'm led to believe that means chainsaw operator's certificate 
- 
One-man-motor-chain-saw-operator's-instruction-course-participating-certificate).

Peter Shute

-----Original Message-----
From:  
 On Behalf Of L&L Knight
Sent: Thursday, 26 November 2009 12:46 PM
To: Birding-aus (E-mail)
Subject: Identifying bird groups in need of a name change

Jeff is right, it is time to stop waffling and start a systematic approach to 
the issue of dodgy bird names.

I would say that the first step is to list bird groups that are inappropriately 
named, such as robins, cuckoo-shrikes and magpies.

Regards, Laurie.

On 26/11/2009, at 11:29 AM, Jeff Davies wrote:

> Surely this thread has run its course by now.
> I honestly don't believe that there will be an overwhelming show of
> hands to start calling a Cuckoo-shrike a Cush, enough already.
>
> Cheers Jeff.
>

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