One arm point and beyond(dampier peninsula, near Broome

To: Denise Goodfellow <>, Greg <>, Carl Clifford <>
Subject: One arm point and beyond(dampier peninsula, near Broome
From: Nikolas Haass <>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:38:21 -0800 (PST)

I agree with keeping local names. But I disagree, with scientific names being 
common to each species. In times of the phylogenetic species concept there have 
been so many changes on species level but even on genus and family level, that 
English names appear to be more stable than scientific names!


Nikolas Haass

Sydney, NSW

----- Original Message ----
From: Denise Goodfellow <>
To: Greg <>; Carl Clifford <>
Cc: Birding Aus <>
Sent: Fri, November 20, 2009 7:45:34 AM
Subject: One arm point and beyond(dampier peninsula, near Broome


People will still continue to use regional names, and I don't see why not.
For instance, Owl-faced Finch for Double-barred. Indeed, I think it
important  to keep such names, particularly the Indigenous ones.  Kunwinjku
people have already stopped using a heap of terms for particular animals,
and so when I trained them for birdwatching tourism, I encouraged them to
just add the European terms to the names they already knew.

There are already names common to each species - scientific names.  And
generally, not are they only descriptive but often poetic!

on 20/11/09 5:58 AM, Greg & Val Clancy at  wrote:

> Why not use 'Barri-enna'? Because it is the Sydney area name for it.  There
> are many other suitable indigenous names such as Djanna (help me Denise
> Goodfellow did I get it right?).
> A nice thought to use an indigenous name but it may be a Pandora's box not
> worth opening.
> Greg Clancy

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