Bird names (was one arm point and beyond(dampier peninsula, near Broome)

To: "'Alistair McKeough'" <>, "'Peter Shute'" <>
Subject: Bird names (was one arm point and beyond(dampier peninsula, near Broome)
From: "Stephen Ambrose" <>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:42:21 +1100
This debate reminds me of one of the very first courses that was run at the
Eyre Bird Observatory (in the late 1970s). The late, great Dom Serventy was
asked by a novice birdwatcher how one spells "Gerygone". Dom's magnificent
response was W-A-R-B-L-E-R.

Stephen Ambrose
Ryde, NSW

-----Original Message-----
 On Behalf Of Alistair McKeough
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 3:01 PM
To: Peter Shute
Cc: birding aus
Subject: Re: Re: [Birding-Aus] One arm point and beyond(dampier peninsula,
near Broome

Yes, it has.

In brief and from memory, Jabiru is a South American name and there is
another bird bearing that nomenclature so the international types want it

I think Jabiru is a wonderful name and the lament the ridiculous suggestion
that any purported confusion with some overseas species nobody in Australia
gives a hoot about is sufficient reason to change it.

Pee Wee. Jabiru. Wonderful stuff and nomenclature I will personally continue
to use.

2009/11/19 Peter Shute <>

> I think this has been discussed here several times before, so a search for
> jabiru and satin in the archives might tell you all there is to know.
> Peter Shute
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  [mailto:
>  On Behalf Of 
> Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 2:21 PM
> To: Greg & Val Clancy
> Cc: birding aus
> Subject: Re: Re: [Birding-Aus] One arm point and beyond(dampier peninsula,
> near Broome
> G'day Gret,
> That's pretty interesting. I've not known about the origins behind the
> Jabiru. I've always assumed it was an Aboriginal name, it certainly sounds
> like it could be an Aboriginal word.
> How was the proposed new name of Satin Stork arrived at? Sorry if this is
> common knowledge, but I'm not very up to date on the process associated
> how names are decided.
> Regards,
> Mark
> > Greg & Val Clancy <> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Gary,
> >
> > I read you post with interest and noted that you hate using the name
> > 'Black-necked Stork'.  The neck is actually black, with a blue-green
> > sheen, and although probably not the most appropriate name for the
> > species it has been in use in Asia and Australia since at least the
> > late 1880's.  The bird books that I used when starting out birding
> > many years back all called it "Jabiru' and that is what I knew it as
> > for many years.  Having recently completed my PhD studies on the
> > species I am now a strong advocate for not calling it "Jabiru'.  The
> > reasons for this are: it is not a Jabiru - a Jabiru is a South
> > American stork species which has only a few similarities to our
> > elegant bird; 'Jabiru' is a Tupi-Guarani name for the species which
> > means 'swollen neck', referring to its habit of inflating its bald
> > neck pouch, very different to our slender necked species; the south
> > American bird has precedence over the name which is also its generic
> > name.
> >
> > When I hear or read the name 'Back-necked Stork' I visualise the
> > beautiful, elegant bird that it is I don't lament the loss of a
> > totally inappropriate name for Australia's only stork species.
> > However if 'Black-necked Stork' is too much to bear you will be happy
> > to know that when the New Guinea and Australian populations of this
> > species are separated out from the Asian populations, which is likely
> > in the future, the name 'Satin Stork' will,
> >
> > hopefully, be applied to our birds.  This name received support from
> > the
> >
> > Birds Australia Common Names Committee but it will only be with
> > widespread acceptance that it will become 'set in stone.'  So far I
> > have received a
> >
> > large amount of support for the name.  I hope you will also support it.
> >
> >
> > Greg Clancy
> > Ecologist
> > Coutts Crossing
> > NSW

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