Same for Nikon mate.
2008/12/9 David Stowe <>
> Bob,
> Don't forget that you won't get autofocus if you use a teleconvertor on a
> lens with a max aperture of f5.6 or worse.
> (unless you buy a Canon 1 series body).
> All the mid range/lower end SLRs only focus to f5.6. Adding a 1.4X takes it
> to a max aperture of f8
> (2X = f11).
> Sorry this relates to Canon - have no idea about Nikon but assume it to be
> similar...Alistair or Paul???
>
> Cheers
> Dave Stowe
>
> PS- i agree with the comment about getting better glass before a better
> body. Digital cameras (SLRs included) are like computers and get
> outdated/better every year. A good lens will last a lifetime.
> And forget the twin lens kit with the Canon! The longer lens in that kit is
> crap and i know a few people who have ended up getting 100-400 in the end
> anyway due to the disappointment in the performance. It is cheap in the kit
> because it is cheap.
>
>
>
>
> On 09/12/2008, at 6:54 PM, Bob Cook wrote:
>
> Russell
>>
>> Yes, I think that for bird photography, the lens appears to be the key.
>> The
>> just above entry level bodies, either latest or nearly latest, seem now to
>> be excellent for supporting a variety of suitable lenses, either good
>> quality zoom or up to the 500mm high quality better aperture lens. And it
>> appears that using a 1.4 or 1.7 teleconverter is OK, as long as it is a
>> good
>> quality converter, but you do lose one f stop.
>>
>> It is interesting to conclude that $3000 to $4000 is the cost to get to
>> that
>> "better than entry level" with one good lens.
>>
>> Then, one day, we can dream about the $25,000+ setup that the pros use.
>>
>> Bob Cook
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Russell Woodford
>> Sent: Tuesday, 9 December 2008 6:22 PM
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Digital SLR for bird photography
>>
>> Hi Bob
>>
>> Thanks for posting that summary so birding-aus readers can keep up
>> with the info you've been collating from around the web.
>>
>> Much appreciated - I'm also thinking of heading down that path myself.
>> I have access to a Canon 400D at my school and I've enjoyed using it -
>> was even allowed to take it to Cairns for a holiday break! BUt of
>> course it goes back to the AV dpt once I'm back at school, so it would
>> be nice to have my own :-)
>>
>> Apparently the 450D is a reasonable step up from the 400D. Canon
>> introduced the 1000D as its entry level "cheapie" so now there is the
>> choice of 3 levels before you get into the really expensive ones. From
>> what I've gathered from friends, it is worth spending as much or more
>> on the lens as on the camera. The canon 400 lens is a very nice unit,
>> but I wouldn't want to be carrying it a long way! I've only used the
>> kits lens 75-300 at school but another birder let me try his 400IS and
>> it really was very nice to use.
>>
>> Anyway ... just a dream at this stage, but it's good to have the info
>> - and of course important that this sort of data gets added to the
>> birding-aus archive!
>> That's birding-aus, not Oz!
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Russell
>>
>> Russell Woodford
>>
>>
>> Learning Technologies Coordinator
>> Sacred Heart College Geelong
>> An Apple School of Excellence
>> http://www.shc.melb.catholic.edu.au/
>>
>> On 09/12/2008, at 6:06 PM, Bob Cook wrote:
>>
>> Thanks to you all!!
>>>
>>> Much appreciated, excellent information has been forthcoming. And
>>> the issues
>>> I should consider.
>>>
>>> It seems that for my needs / desires (budget) the way to go is with
>>> the one
>>> generation ago body, i.e. Canon EOS40D or Nikon D80 together with the
>>> 100-400 IS or 80-400 VR lens. Still likely to be just over the
>>> $3000 and
>>> without any spare battery, filter, tele-converter, bag, etc.
>>>
>>> Comments I have seen on the Nikon 80-400 VR lens is that it is slow to
>>> focus. Many user reviews have mentioned this. Is this the same
>>> with the
>>> Canon 100-400 IS? Any experience?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Bob Cook
>>>
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