Subject: Birdstack
From: "Dave Torr" <>
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:20:21 +1100
Aren't names wonderful! The current IOC list compared to Birdlife Int and
Clements 6 is on my website at Or you could check out

But I agree on taxonomy - will be interesting to see how quickly the 3
Aussie ones update for the new C&B - will this new one cope with those
changes? And then there is the issue of what to do when the Aussie treatment
differs from the International one, as I understand is the case for
Albatrosses. Should an Aussie site use C&B for endemics and International
recommendations for albatrosses etc? Or should it (for those with
international pretensions such as Eremaea?) use both depending on where you
are birding????

On 21/01/2008, Russell Woodford <> wrote:
> One more concern about the increase in online bird databases is
> consistency - Birdstack looks very user-friendly, but I'm not sure about
> the taxonomic choices it has made.  I would have thought that a database
> would use one of the "standard" references, Sibley & Monroe or Clements or
> their derivatives. Birdstack instead uses "International Ornithological
> Congress's Birds of the World: Recommended English Names"(Gill and
> Wright).  Is this now the standard reference? Is it derived from S&M or
> Clements? It isn't really clear, and it probably should be clear - or
> maybe the IOC list renders these other lists obsolete?
> Anyway, my point is that not only do we have another online database (a
> way of aggregating all the records of all the big online databases would
> make more sense) but we seem to have yet another way of naming the world's
> birds!  Too confusing for me.
> All I wanted was some more information on the elusive Large Lifou
> White-Eye - but now I see that it is called the Forest White-Eye.
> Obviously I was looking for the wrong bird!!!!!
> (More about my total failure to see an "easy" endemic later when I write
> up my trip report ...)
> Russell Woodford
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