What is in a name? Off topic about is

To: "Philip Veerman" <>
Subject: What is in a name? Off topic about is
From: peter crow <>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:33:53 +1000
When we use it's for it is we are shortening the is after a pronoun "it". It is fairly common and I consider correct to do the same thing after other pronouns. that's for that is etc.

We say and use "you're" for you are (although 90% spell it your as they don't understand the difference ror simply cannot spell but it is correct to use "you're".

Shortening after a pronoun has been accepted for yonks.

On Tuesday, July 31, 2007, at 12:34 PM, Philip Veerman wrote:

I am only sending this to the list only because Michael sent his question to the list. If you are not interested, please just ignore this.

Whilst there are rules of grammar, it is best to stick to them, otherwise we get confused. I think English is silly for having a s at the end of a word to indicate so many different things. Apostrophe is correctly also used for a shortening. However this is overdone and the problem is that by using 's for shortening, it gets confusing. The evidence being that people are obviously confused. I think the worst offenders, who should know better, are TV newsreaders. It is necessary to have programs such as the apostrophe preservation society to try and keep things correct.

In regard to Michael's suggestion: what's for what is, is as follows, take for example that John's hat is correct for describing the hat that belongs to John (not that John is a hat) but John's sick for John is sick is wrong and confusing and then John's been unwell for John has been unwell make it even more confusing. Really the 's for shortening should only apply to it's for it is. Even that is confusing because for any other word an 's means possessive as in belong to it. The only way out of the problem is for people to always think about why the s is there and always use the words is and has in full.

I have written part of this in italics to make the quotes clearer. However sadly the font change will not show after going through B-A.


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