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Fig Parrot species

To: Syd Curtis <>
Subject: Fig Parrot species
From: David Stowe <>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 08:45:06 +1100
Hi Syd
Is it at all possible to translate this into biology for dummies??
ie- what is phylogenic v biological?
Sorry for my ignorance. I failed Chemistry at school and never did biology!
I am honestly interested though.
Cheers
Dave Stowe

On 14/11/2006, at 8:28 AM, Syd Curtis wrote:


DNA analysis would answer a lot of questions about the fig-parrot complex ... providing material for analysis is available. And it would bring us to
the question of phylogenetic species v. biological species.

Schodde & Mason, in their "Directory of Australian Birds - Passerines"
introduction, (para (4) on page 2), contrast biological species and
phylogenetic species concepts, biological being what we have now. And they reckon adoption of phylogenetic (desirable though this may be) would "bring
a degree of chaos to conventional classification of the Australian
avifauna".  They continue:

"This comes not so much from a dearth of robust phylogenies (Christidis & Boles 1994) as from its effect in raising most present subspecies to the level of species, almost doubling the size of the fauna at species level.
And all 'species' would have to be re-circumscribed according to new
criteria. Administrative consequences, in government and the legislature a
well as biology, would be daunting."

But if our Australian society is ever to be really serious about conserving
biodiversity, phylogenetic 'species' surely are what we must seek to
conserve?

Cheers.


Syd

["Almost doubling the size of the fauna at species level" - do I hear all
you twitchers, cheering?]
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