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Fig-Parrot Discovery - some comments

To: Turnix-olivii_1895 <>
Subject: Fig-Parrot Discovery - some comments
From: David Stowe <>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 08:41:31 +1100
Well said Lloyd!
I can't wait for the paper and to see more photos.
I too greatly admire his dedication and hard work.
Isn't it true that he also found out that Blue-faced parrot-finches
nest 100metres up in trees!?

Cheers
David Stowe



On 14/11/2006, at 7:37 AM, Turnix-olivii_1895 wrote:

Some comments on John Young’s Fig-Parrot discovery –

The negative article in The Australian throwing some doubt on the
discovery
should be dismissed and forgotten. There is more to this behind the scenes
than meets the eye.  The main complaint from those quoted is that
photographs/data have not been released previously. The fact is
that it has
been “work in progress” for some years which needed to be gathered before it
was made known.

As one of a few trusted people who have been privileged to share in some of the facts and to see a range of photographs over the time, this has to be
one of the most exciting ornithological finds for many years.

There have been suggestions that the published photograph may have
been of a
captive bird. This is false – all birds photographed were free
flying wild
birds. I would regard the veiled suggestion in the article in The
Australian
that the photograph(s) have been a known race of Fig-Parrot with
colours
altered/shifted by computer as despicable. This certainly did not
happen.
This special bird really does exist as depicted in the published
photograph.

As has been made known, the intention is to eventually publish a
paper on
the discovery. The very fact that Ian (Dr Ian Gynther) is working
with John
on this means that the project is in excellent, capable hands. The
rest of
us just have to be patient. There is still a lot of work to be done.

The reason that the locality has been kept secret is not because of the
probability of birders tramping around trying to find it but
because of fear
of collecting. John made it known at the release (which the Queensland
Minister for the Environment attended) at O’Reilly’s recent Bird Week that
it had been suggested to him that some specimens should be taken for
“further scientific study”!

As far as John capitalising on the discovery by taking tours there
at some
later date (the locality is quite remote and difficult to access),
I doubt
that he would but if he did, I would say good luck to him. To get
this far
has cost him an enormous amount in time and expense and Australian
ornithology will be the beneficiary in the long run. The chance of
anyone
finding a tiny, quiet, elusive, apparent canopy dweller in foliage
the same
colour as itself without the combined observational and climbing
skills of
John Young is about zilch!

As to a personal opinion on the bird’s eventual identity
considering the
information I have been privileged to, I would not offer one other
than to
say I would be quite surprised if it turned out to be Coxen’s Fig- Parrot.

Without singing John’s praises too much, I think he should be given the
accolades he deserves. Only he could have found such a bird in such a
situation (how many of us are prepared to spend night after night
sitting
and sleeping in the rainforest canopy to study secretive owls and the
like?). If this bird turns out to be an unknown race or species of
Fig-Parrot, the fact remains that it has escaped some very competent
ornithologists and collectors over the past two centuries. John may operate
in an unconventional manner but in light of his results, that
should be
accepted and encouragement given. As one of his close friends and
privy to
some of his confidential information, I fully believe that he is
one of the
most competent field ornithologists that this country has seen. One example
is his recent Eastern Bristlebird work which has been near mind-
blowing.
When it was feared the species may be extinct in SE Qld, EPA
employed him to
try to locate any remaining birds. Not only did he find a dozen or
so pairs
but he found nests in near impossible situations which resulted in an
apparent thriving captive colony being established and probably
ensuring the
survival of this race should wild populations become extinct.

Finally, it would be no surprise if there are further exciting
finds to come
over the next few years.

Lloyd Nielsen
Mt Molloy  Nth Qld

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