Nonsense nonsense, get yourself a proper 4x4, Nissan or Tojo.
Tony
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From:
On Behalf Of Alistair
McKeough
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:21 PM
To: L&L Knight
Cc: Evan Beaver; Birding Aus
Subject: Your birding vehicle
And the Outback has more luggage space, is slightly more comfortable,
handles much better and is quieter on tarmac. I have driven both
extensively and both are excellent vehicles on the slightly beaten
track, although the lack of a manual in the 3.0L Outback hampers it
somewhat. You need to decide how far bush you want to go and how whether
the compromises are worth it.
Remember that in remote parts of Australia you'll need to be well
prepared and have back up plans, whatever vehicle you take.
L&L Knight wrote:
> A Subaru Forester is a more competent outback vehicle, having better
> clearance, low range transmission and a lower purchase cost. You can
> go up Cape York Peninsula, find Grey Grasswrens and pop into the Eyre
> Bird Observatory in one.
>
> Regards, Laurie.
>
> On Thursday, February 23, 2006, at 09:19 PM, Evan Beaver wrote:
>
>> It's hard to beat a Subaru, as most birders will surely tell you. Big
>> 4wd's are a hassle everywhere apart from the serious bush, and guzzle
>> fuel. Get an outback if you can, with a proper fuel efficient engine,
>> enough clearance to go most places, excellent grip for the majority
>> of outback roads which are 'soft' and require little clearance, and
>> it will still be nice around town. I am extremely biased having owned
>> a few Subes, but I only buy them because they're the best cars made
>> for Australian conditions.
>>
>>
>> On 2/23/06, Graham Etherington <> wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>> I'm expecting to move from the UK to Brisbane at the end of March or
>> the beginning of April. I'm planning of spending a lot of time
>> birding, probably going away for birding trips every other weekend,
>> by car. My question is this - do you really need 4x4 to fully enjoy
>> the best of QLD/NWS birding? I know I'll need something with plenty
>> of space for camping gear and the like, but I'd be interested to see
>> how many Australian birders use 4WD vehicles (and where you use
>> them). I've visited Queensland once before and thought that a good
>> off-road vehicle would have been handy sometimes, especially at
>> places such as Noosa Plain and Lamington.
>> Also, what about the various different types of 4x4. I know about the
>> usual Nissan Patrols and Toyota Landcruisers, but what about the
>> 'station wagon' type 4x4. Anyone use one of them?
>> So, what I'm really after is comments from birders about what they
>> drive (4x4 or other), how they think their vehicle copes with birding
>> terrain, how necessary they consider a 4x4 to be, and where they
spend
>> most of their time birding.
>>
>> Looking forward to joining you all in Oz and meeting up with some of
>> the local birders in Queensland. Best wishes,
>> Graham Etherington
>> Norwich, UK
>
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