Your birding vehicle

Subject: Your birding vehicle
From: "Peter Ewin" <>
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:32:12 +1100
Whole heartedly agree after just purchasing my first Subaru Outback (had to move up to the family wagon). We went 2nd hand as they are abit pricy new but there are some good deals about. You would only need a Landcruiser or Patrol (or as I used to own - a Hilux) if you intend to do serious trips - Cape York, Simpson Desert, Canning Stock Route). Most places you can get to in 2WD but a AWD gives that extra security. I have an idea that Thomas and Thomas went to all the sites in their book in a 2WD Falcon Station Wagon but that may be wrong. Toyota RAV are also good (I have owned one in the past) and the others are OK though I have heard Honda CRV can have some problems on sand. Subaru Foresters are also nice (a bit cheaper but not quite as flash).

From: "Evan Beaver" <>
Reply-To: "Evan Beaver" <>
To: "Graham Etherington" <>
Subject: Re: [BIRDING-AUS] Your birding vehicle
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:19:49 +1100

It's hard to beat a Subaru, as most birders will surely tell you. Big 4wd's
are a hassle everywhere apart from the serious bush, and guzzle fuel. Get an outback if you can, with a proper fuel efficient engine, enough clearance to
go most places, excellent grip for the majority of outback roads which are
'soft' and require little clearance, and it will still be nice around town.
I am extremely biased having owned a few Subes, but I only buy them because
they're the best cars made for Australian conditions.

On 2/23/06, Graham Etherington <> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> I'm expecting to move from the UK to Brisbane at the end of March or
> the beginning of April. I'm planning of spending a lot of time
> birding, probably going away for birding trips every other weekend, by
> car.
> My question is this - do you really need 4x4 to fully enjoy the best
> of QLD/NWS birding? I know I'll need something with plenty of space
> for camping gear and the like, but I'd be interested to see how many
> Australian birders use 4WD vehicles (and where you use them).
> I've visited Queensland once before and thought that a good off-road
> vehicle would have been handy sometimes, especially at places such as
> Noosa Plain and Lamington.
> Also, what about the various different types of 4x4. I know about the
> usual Nissan Patrols and Toyota Landcruisers, but what about the
> 'station wagon' type 4x4. Anyone use one of them?
> So, what I'm really after is comments from birders about what they
> drive (4x4 or other), how they think their vehicle copes with birding
> terrain, how necessary they consider a 4x4 to be, and where they spend
> most of their time birding.
> Looking forward to joining you all in Oz and meeting up with some of
> the local birders in Queensland.
> Best wishes,
> Graham Etherington
> Norwich, UK
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Evan Beaver
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