Your birding vehicle

To: L&L Knight <>
Subject: Your birding vehicle
From: Alistair McKeough <>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:50:51 +1100
And the Outback has more luggage space, is slightly more comfortable, handles much better and is quieter on tarmac. I have driven both extensively and both are excellent vehicles on the slightly beaten track, although the lack of a manual in the 3.0L Outback hampers it somewhat. You need to decide how far bush you want to go and how whether the compromises are worth it.

Remember that in remote parts of Australia you'll need to be well prepared and have back up plans, whatever vehicle you take.

L&L Knight wrote:

A Subaru Forester is a more competent outback vehicle, having better clearance, low range transmission and a lower purchase cost. You can go up Cape York Peninsula, find Grey Grasswrens and pop into the Eyre Bird Observatory in one.

Regards, Laurie.

On Thursday, February 23, 2006, at 09:19  PM, Evan Beaver wrote:

It's hard to beat a Subaru, as most birders will surely tell you. Big 4wd's are a hassle everywhere apart from the serious bush, and guzzle fuel. Get an outback if you can, with a proper fuel efficient engine, enough clearance to go most places, excellent grip for the majority of outback roads which are 'soft' and require little clearance, and it will still be nice around town. I am extremely biased having owned a few Subes, but I only buy them because they're the best cars made for Australian conditions.

On 2/23/06, Graham Etherington <> wrote:

Hi everyone,
I'm expecting to move from the UK to Brisbane at the end of March or
the beginning of April. I'm planning of spending a lot of time
birding, probably going away for birding trips every other weekend, by
My question is this - do you really need 4x4 to fully enjoy the best
of QLD/NWS birding? I know I'll need something with plenty of space
for camping gear and the like, but I'd be interested to see how many
Australian birders use 4WD vehicles (and where you use them).
I've visited Queensland once before and thought that a good off-road
vehicle would have been handy sometimes, especially at places such as
Noosa Plain and Lamington.
Also, what about the various different types of 4x4. I know about the
usual Nissan Patrols and Toyota Landcruisers, but what about the
'station wagon' type 4x4. Anyone use one of them?
So, what I'm really after is comments from birders about what they
drive (4x4 or other), how they think their vehicle copes with birding
terrain, how necessary they consider a 4x4 to be, and where they spend
most of their time birding.

Looking forward to joining you all in Oz and meeting up with some of
the local birders in Queensland.
Best wishes,
Graham Etherington
Norwich, UK

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