That is very interesting that Hawaii is not included. Lord Howe is a bit
like Australia's Hawaii. But as Dave pointed out, it is ultimately up to the
people that are 'organising' the list.
Personally, I think that they should consider keeping the two lists, or
alternatively, someone should set up an 'official list' that is based on
sound non-political definitions. The BOCA list is the closest to this that I
can see, although it includes Lord Howe and Norfolk Islands for some reason.
You just need to take one look at the map at the bottom of this link below
to see how ridiculous it is to include the Antarctic and Indian Ocean
territories. Under a continental definition, Ashmore Reef would stay, but
the Coral Sea Islands probably wouldn't. The Timor Sea presents a problem.
http://www.ga.gov.au/education/facts/dimensions/externalterr/
Any thoughts!???
From:
To: (Dave Torr), (Tom Johnson)
CC:
Subject: Re: [BIRDING-AUS] Lists
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:04:54 -0500
Yes, here in the U.S. there are fairly precise listing rules. One thing
that is clearly defined is the geographical territory included within any
listing area, and these take account of biogeography, rather than just
nationality. thus, for example, Hawaii is excluded from the ABA area,
which includes the rest of the United States and Canada, because it is too
distinct biogeographically. Other listing areas are also defined. And
yes, David is right, if you are standing in state A and see a bird that is
sitting on a haystack in state B, for purposes of your state lists, it
would count in state B. Or perhaps more importantly, if you are birding
in Texas along the Rio Grande River, and you see a bird on the other side
of the River, it is a Mexico bird, not a U.S. or ABA area bird.
Of course the ABA rules are only for those who choose to list according to
the ABA guidelines. Many people do not wish to submit their lists to the
ABA or otherwise "compete" in listing and so feel free to alter the rules
to suit their own interests.
Eric Jeffrey
Falls Church, VA
USA
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