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To: "Scott O'Keeffe" <>
Subject: 1080
From: Laurie & Leanne Knight <>
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 18:54:24 +1000
Scott O'Keeffe wrote:
> 
> Your original post suggested that cats or dogs are several orders of
> magnitude more abundant than foxes.  If there are 50,000 dogs in Brisbane,
> your assessment implies that there are about 500 foxes in Brisbane.  There
> would certainly be more than 500 foxes in Brisbane.  In suggesting that
> foxes are very common in Brisbane, I mean that, for a top level predator,
> they are very common.  Compared with estimates of fox density from other
> locations, it can also be said that foxes are very common in Brisbane.
> 10,000 is not too likely, but I wouldn't rule this out as a possibility for
> greater Brisbane.  As far as I know, no exhaustive surveys have been
> undertaken for GB.
> 
> As far as diet goes, few studies have been done in the Brisbane area, and
> not many have been done in urban areas generally.  Best work comes from
> Melbourne.  One study I was involved in looked at scat samples from the
> Boondall wetlands and surrounds.  The most common vertebrate remains in fox
> scats in that study were bandicoot.  Still common around Brisbane, but in
> southern populations centres, disappearing, and foxes are heavily
> implicated. Surprisingly, the remains contained no evidence of hares.
> 
> Brush Turkeys?  As I understand it, recruitment for Brush Turkeys in
> suburban Brisbane is low, and it has been suggested that the birds seen in
> the outer suburbs move into these areas from outlying forest.  I havn't seen
> any evidence to prove or disprove the idea that foxes take Brush Turkeys.
> The fact that we see Turkeys around the 'burbs is not necessarily evidence
> of a lack of predation.  Foxes could be picking the Turkeys off, providing
> vacant territories for birds dispersing from outlying forest areas.  Perhaps
> these vacant territories are rapidly filled by 'new' birds, conveying the
> impression that individual birds survive in an area year after year.  Are
> the Turkeys we see from one year to the next the same birds, or 'new' birds
> which have taken up vacant territories?   I also repeat what I said
> previously about eggs.  Foxes love eggs, and eggs in a large heap of
> decaying organic material....?  You can't tell me that isnt likely to
> attract foxes.
> 

I doubt the Mt Gravatt turkey population is heavily predated - I used to
live in a different street and had a long term mound the other side of
the back fence [see references to Lord Jim, sire of many young turks in
the archives].  I remember seeing three young turks moving through my
yard in convoy, and I saw another emerge from the mound.

As for the number of pet cats and dogs in the Brisbane metro area, I
would expect there to be a couple of hundred thousand ...

LK
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