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On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:15 PM, janne.kario <> wrote: I'm a hobbyist so I'm using the board for non-commercial stuff. I didn't even try to use the default busybox or ts kernel. For me the shortest path to success was to get recent kernel and recent version of debian / openembedded running on the board and from there on rely on the broad userbase and available documentation of those communities. How easy was it to get a recent kernel going? On a TS-7800, I diffed that TS kernel with the stock kernel, immediately paled at the vast difference between the two, and decided that they have a giant pile of undocumented patches to make it work and I didn't have time to track them all down. This option gives me the most options, support and continuity. I do think that could also apply on the commercial side. However, I don't know the client profile TS has. Which percentage the clients are content with the default stuff and which percentage use the board to break the boundaries using the latest stuff available. Might be that the majority of their customers are content with the default busybox for example and use it for simple C programs / shell scripts which read serial port etc. Well, I can tell you that this particular customer is pretty unsatisfied with the TS software situation. The stock install is a very old version of Debian set up poorly, the kernel is ancient, their web/ftp server is so slow that it takes a good portion of a day to download anything significant from their site, and the documentation is poor. It's very frustrating and has wasted a lot of my time. From my standpoint (as a hobbyist) TS is doing the wrong thing (maintaining their own kernel fork / busybox rootfs / debian rootfs). They could concentrate all that effort into getting TS peripheral stuff driver support into mainline and just riding the wave from there on. Rootfs is not a problem. Anyone should be fairly easily able to come up with a rootfs which suits their specific needs. I do think that the same applies also on the commercial side. __._,_.___
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