Dunge2 wrote:
> I agree with you there. TS sell a product, saying that it is amazing for
> graphical application. You receive it, and stock from the shop it boot into
> X11 with IceWM and simply pressing the "start" button takes about 5 second to
> load. This is unacceptable, especially since when you seek a bit further you
> see that the CPU is capable of much better, and that the OS shipped don't use
> it.
>
Actually, the CPU is pretty poor, and I don't think that EABI or crunch
will help. Even having the crunch patches installed and running I get
inconsistent and incorrect FP results on basic test programs. Busybox
doesn't work properly when compiled for crunch. Its a shame that Cirrus
dropped its 94xx project, as it could have been an excellent replacement
for the bug filled 93xx series.
> So, being a software developer you think (and not a linux guru), hey, I'll
> install this EABI os, can't be that hard. Then you fall into a world of
> cross-compilers, patches, error messages, mismatching versions. After having
> tried 4-5 different paths unsuccessful, I emailed TS and asked them for help,
> if they could provide a working developers environment. A few weeks later,
> still no answer. Being in a "free software" world industry usually mean no
> support for software, but this is a product they are making money with.
>
This is a problem with ARM in general. Unlike x86, one arm is not the
same as the next: OABI/EABI/ armv4, v5, a8, etc... they're all
different in their own special ways. With a modern x86, you get an
ubuntu CD - you install on a CF card...done. piece of cake.
> So I continue, and find out to use GTK+/X11 as announced on the TS website,
> you would have to cross-compile a whole debian distribution, with a custom
> patched gcc crosstool, including Xorg which, after searching a bit, you find
> out probably nobody ever did it since a few years.
>
> So yeah, we are looking for another board. There are a lot of boards out
> there with much better stats at the same price. Unfortunately, we need
> extended temperature, a solid touchscreen, multiple serial ports, IO ports,
> etc and only the TS boards seems to have it all.
>
I'd strongly suggest that unless power efficiency is a strong
requirement (e.g. battery powered) that you look to solving your problem
with an x86 pc (e.g. nano-itx). If you're still hell bent on making
your life difficult, I'd suggest an arm board like the beagle board.
Beagle comes with a distribution, an a 600MHz core - which will do
decent graphics in x.
-Brett
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