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Subject: [ts-7000] Re: Thoughts on the new TS-7400 board
From: "Jesse Off" <>
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 16:55:46 -0000
--- In  "Don W. Carr" <> wrote:
>
> For me, the best thing you could add is two high speed counters, 
and extra
> serial ports. I have a project that needs 5 serial ports, 2 high 
speed
> counters, and some DIO, and this little board would be perfect if 
we could
> do that. By the way, we really like the way you count transitions 
instead of
> cycles since that cuts the error for frequency calculations in 
half! We
> would even be willing to pay for the mods.

Could you elaborate on the high speed counters?  Do you mean a free-
running register in memory space counting upwards or a frequency 
counter watching a DIO pin?

With a custom FPGA, we can strip down features you tell us you don't 
need and make some more room for things you do.  I'm not sure I can 
fit 3 extra UARTs, SD card core, NAND controller core, boilerplate 
glue logic and frequency counters all in a 570 LUT CPLD/FPGA, but if 
you're willing to give up SD and boot to NAND flash it would be no 
problem. 

> 
> I like the XDIO, but I think it would be better if you could still 
use the
> other DIO when the counters are used, and also you need a longer 
register
> for the PWM high/low times so we can hit all frequencies +/-0.05% 
duty
> cycle.

By counters do you mean the little "trick" you can do to loopback PWM 
to the pulse-counter for an arbitrary freq free-running counter?  
This indeed will tie up the PWM pin and feature and the pulse timer 
feature, but other GPIO's and features should still be useable.

> 
> When will you have a case? We would like room for a signal 
conditioning
> board in the case like you have with your other cases.

This board is a standard size that fits into some very inexpensive 
off-the-shelf extruded aluminum cases.  We only have to do custom 
metal and screening work on the endplates and they should be here 
this week.  I'm not sure theres room in the smallest case we're 
supporting for a "daughterboard" with a mating 40 pin female 
connector.  What would work though would be to just solder your board 
to the .1" headers directly.  This would get you an extremely rugged 
device with a very low stack height.  

We used the .1" headers  partially for the reason that they would be 
easy to solder a daughterboard directly to.  We were thinking about 
doing an edge connector like a SIMM socket or a high density hirose 
style connector, but came to the conclusion that would just be 
idiotic for targetting ruggedness.  Edge connectors are mechanically 
weak and unwieldy (there was a reason PC/104 went the way it did 
rather than stay with the PC card-edge slots).  Those high-density 
connectors aren't much better and some were only rated for 50 mate 
cycles!  Granted they'd likely only be mated once, but that just 
doesn't sound like a reliable connector to me, so instead we put 
the .1" pin header on and tons of mounting holes.

We really like these extruded aluminum enclosures.  An advantage 
besides being inexpensive is that they are extremely strong-- you 
could probably run one of these things over with a truck without it 
collapsing!  We will definitely be testing that once they come in.

P.S.
Our production workers say you stopped by our office a month or so 
ago to pick up some boards-- wish you would have dropped by in Bob's 
or my office before you left, as we would have liked to have met you!

//Jesse Off






 
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