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Subject: Re: [ts-7000] Re: Wiki
From: Chris Knadle <>
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:20:46 -0400
On Sunday 16 October 2005 08:50 pm, vocemanago wrote:
> Well, for the most part, all that may be required of Yan is a nightly
> backup.

   I run a couple of wiki's currently.  One thing I found is that if you run a 
wiki that allows for posting without a login, a lot of junk gets posted to 
the wiki as people employ bots to find places to post links.  To try to 
lessen the headache, a blocklist of IP address ranges and words can be used, 
but it comes with a cost of slowing down the posting process, which can 
become significant.
   I recommend using logins as a result, even though it's a nonoptimal 
solution, because otherwise you end up chasing your tail getting rid of junk.

> A wiki is an open notebook, much like this user group, except that
> anyone can create hyperlinks and articles in a way that will "become"
> a useful book online.

   They also use shortcuts for how the page is going to be formatted, and the 
shortcuts vary between various wikis.

> Maintaining it , might be redefining the formats, spell checking,
> validity checking and the removal of the "Hi Moms".

   Until the bots start running once an hour that wipe out the page entirely 
and replace it with links.  :-/  It's ultra annoying.

> Also, periodically you could go through and catagorize the page better.
> Look at wikipedia to get an idea.

   Wikipedia also needs a database on the backend, as most wikis do.  Pmwiki 
does not, so I know there are exceptions to this.  I've been running various 
versions of Pmwiki on a Debian stable webserver for a couple of years.

> What would be great is to get one of those wikis that dumps into a
> document format... that could be easily printed. Now that would be handy.
> Hosting the wiki is the major portion of this project.
> Next is choosing the wiki program.

   I suggest avoiding Twiki, as a friend's box just got rooted due to a 
vulnerability in it, although perhaps that's fixed by now.  Phpwiki also 
looks interesting and it's in the Debian database, where Pmwiki isn't.  This 
latter is an issue mostly because Pmwiki is a very active project and often 
gets updates.

        - Chris   

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Chris Knadle





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