That=92s normal for portable recorders. I was scratching my head when you r=
eported mixing=85
-Dan
> On Mar 30, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Peter Shute [naturerecordi=
sts] <> wrote:
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> I think it's time to give up on this idea of simultaneously recording fro=
m Mic and Line In sockets. I was mistaken, and it appears the Mic socket ta=
kes precedence.
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> Peter Shute
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> On 30 Mar 2016, at 8:49 PM, Peter Shute <=
uw.org.au> [naturerecordists] <<natu=
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> Something I've noticed is that a mic wired to right channel only shows so=
me cross talk to the left channel in the M10's meters. I haven't checked to=
see if it'll be audible, but I suspect not. I didn't notice similar cross =
talk on the line in input. If this cross talk normal for the M10?
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> Peter Shute
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> On 29 Mar 2016, at 8:51 PM, Peter Shute <=
uw.org.au><> [naturerecordists] <=
ahoogroups.com<><mailto:naturerecord=
>> wrote:
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> It appears that I may not need anything this complicated. I just tried th=
e detector plugged into Line In of the M10, and the microphone simultaneous=
ly plugged into the mic jack, and it recorded from both. Is that the usual =
thing with recorders that you can do that? So it appears all I have to do i=
s wire up the microphone so it only feeds the right track, as the mono sock=
et I fitted to the bat detector is already feeding that only to the left.
>
> Peter Shute
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On 28 Mar 2016, at 4:25 AM, Dan Dugan <=
n.com><><m("dandugan.com","dan");">> [naturerecordists]=
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<><m("yahoogrou","naturerecordists");=">=
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> I=92d suggest building an attenuating cable.
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> 33K on the input shunted to ground with 100 ohms will give you 50 dB of a=
ttenuation.
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> -Dan
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>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 11:26 PM, Peter Shute <pshut=
><><m("nuw.org.au","pshute");">> [naturere=
cordists] <<=
oups.com><><mailto:naturerecordists@=
yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
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>> Thanks, Dan. The Shure A15LA is XLR to XLR. I need to connect 3.5mm to 3=
.5mm, so I'd need adapters too, making it quite bulky. Looking at the simpl=
e circuit design on the side of the barrel, I might be better off just addi=
ng a couple of resistors inside the bat detector. But maybe that type of at=
tenuator would prevent it being able to drive its own speaker? If so, I gue=
ss I could monitor via the recorder output instead.
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>> I saw a page suggesting 33k ohms in series, with 100 ohms in parallel wo=
uld reduce it by 50dB. Sound right?
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>> Peter Shute
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 27 Mar 2016, at 9:56 AM, Dan Dugan <=
an.com><><m("dandugan.com","dan");">><m("dandug","dan");=">=
an.com> [naturerecordists] <<naturer=
><><mailto:=
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wrote:
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>> Direct boxes are generally intended to connect a high-impedance input li=
ke an electric guitar to a low-impedance balanced mic input.
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>> The best solution for line-to-mic is an XLR attenuator barrel designed f=
or that purpose-meaning instead of 10 or 20 dB attenuation it has 40 or 50.=
Shure A15LA, 50 dB.
>>
>> -Dan
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>> On Mar 25, 2016, at 11:15 AM, <=
aii.rr.com><><m("hawaii.rr.com","benedict");">><m=
ailto:> [naturerecordists] <=
ups.com<><m("ya","naturerecordists");=">=
hoogroups.com><><mailto:naturerecord=
>> wrote:
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>> It's new to me, too, so someone please point out where I'm wrong.
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>> You're looking for whats called a "direct box". It lets you plug a line =
level signal in one end, and get a mic level signal out the other.
>>
>> If you do a Google search on "line in to mic in converter" you get a bun=
ch of info on direct boxes, as well as schematics for building your own. Th=
e schematics run the gamut from simple voltage dividers to transformers to =
op-amp driven circuits. The direct boxes also run the gamut from XLR-to-TS,=
1/8"-to-1/8", single channel, dual channel, etc. So you can either build y=
our own or buy one off the shelf, regardless of what your setup is.
>>
>> Good news is these are common tools in the music industry, so if you hav=
e a music store in town they're likely to have an assortment to choose from=
. Even better, you can bring your bat gear (which you get extra points for =
if you wear on your Bat Belt), and test it out.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Tom
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