I think it's time to give up on this idea of simultaneously recording from =
Mic and Line In sockets. I was mistaken, and it appears the Mic socket take=
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Something I've noticed is that a mic wired to right channel only shows some=
cross talk to the left channel in the M10's meters. I haven't checked to s=
ee if it'll be audible, but I suspect not. I didn't notice similar cross ta=
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It appears that I may not need anything this complicated. I just tried the =
detector plugged into Line In of the M10, and the microphone simultaneously=
plugged into the mic jack, and it recorded from both. Is that the usual th=
ing with recorders that you can do that? So it appears all I have to do is =
wire up the microphone so it only feeds the right track, as the mono socket=
I fitted to the bat detector is already feeding that only to the left.=0D
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I=92d suggest building an attenuating cable.=0D
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33K on the input shunted to ground with 100 ohms will give you 50 dB of att=
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> On Mar 26, 2016, at 11:26 PM, Peter Shute <pshute=
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> Thanks, Dan. The Shure A15LA is XLR to XLR. I need to connect 3.5mm to 3.=
5mm, so I'd need adapters too, making it quite bulky. Looking at the simple=
circuit design on the side of the barrel, I might be better off just addin=
g a couple of resistors inside the bat detector. But maybe that type of att=
enuator would prevent it being able to drive its own speaker? If so, I gues=
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> I saw a page suggesting 33k ohms in series, with 100 ohms in parallel wou=
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> On 27 Mar 2016, at 9:56 AM, Dan Dugan <=
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> Direct boxes are generally intended to connect a high-impedance input lik=
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> The best solution for line-to-mic is an XLR attenuator barrel designed fo=
r that purpose-meaning instead of 10 or 20 dB attenuation it has 40 or 50. =
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> It's new to me, too, so someone please point out where I'm wrong.=0D
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> You're looking for whats called a "direct box". It lets you plug a line l=
evel signal in one end, and get a mic level signal out the other.=0D
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> If you do a Google search on "line in to mic in converter" you get a bunc=
h of info on direct boxes, as well as schematics for building your own. The=
schematics run the gamut from simple voltage dividers to transformers to o=
p-amp driven circuits. The direct boxes also run the gamut from XLR-to-TS, =
1/8"-to-1/8", single channel, dual channel, etc. So you can either build yo=
ur own or buy one off the shelf, regardless of what your setup is.=0D
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> Good news is these are common tools in the music industry, so if you have=
a music store in town they're likely to have an assortment to choose from.=
Even better, you can bring your bat gear (which you get extra points for i=
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