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Re: EIN values for LS10-11 on Avisoft

Subject: Re: EIN values for LS10-11 on Avisoft
From: "Peter Shute" pshute2
Date: Mon Dec 3, 2012 12:22 pm ((PST))
Does that mean that their implementation of 24 bit recording is better than the 
others, or that their implementation of 16 bit recording is worse?

But I think Robin's question was about why people seem to be recommending use 
the low range, when both ranges have similar noise levels. Is it that the best 
range to use is the one that results in the dial being the highest for that 
particular application, and that this often turns out to be the low range?

Peter Shute

> -----Original Message-----
> From:  
>  On Behalf Of Raimund
> Sent: Monday, 3 December 2012 7:29 PM
> To: 
> Subject: [Nature Recordists] Re: EIN values for LS10-11 on Avisoft
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>   
> 
> Robin, 
> 
> This constellation seems to be a result of the specific 
> design of these recorders. The Olympus LS-10/11 recorders are 
> the only pocket-sized recorders where I could measure a 
> benefit of using the 24 bit resolution so far. So, it seems 
> that the designers did a really good job here...
> 
> Regards,
> Raimund 
> 
> --- In  
> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com> , "Robin" 
> <> wrote:
> >
> > OK, now it's my turn to be confused. Even considering this 
> new, more explicit data, the results indicate we should have 
> no preference for hi/lo sensitivity (as far as noise goes). 
> This is not conventionally repeated wisdom. So there is still 
> a contradiction somewhere. 
> > 
> > -- Robin Parmar
> > 
> > --- In  
> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com> , "Raimund" 
> <raimundspecht@> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi Chris,
> > > 
> > > Yes, this might be indeed a bit confusing...
> > > 
> > > The table entry "LS-10/11 SENSE LOW, LEVEL 10 = -113 dBu" 
> applies to a bit-depth of 16 bits, which is the setting that 
> I use by default on all my tests because at the maximum gain 
> setting of each recorder, there is generally no difference 
> between 16 and 24 bits. 
> > > 
> > > This low gain setting of the LS10/11 (at 16 bit 
> resolution) will however add an additional quantization noise 
> component, that you can get rid of by selecting the 24 bit 
> format instead. The corresponding value at the 24 bit setting 
> is as follows:
> > > 
> > > Olympus LS-10/11 (SENSE LOW, LEVEL 10, 24 bit) = -121dBu(A)
> > > 
> > > I just added the missing "16 bit" label in order to 
> prevent this kind of confusion.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Raimund
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
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