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Subject: 1. Re: Simultaneous recording with two digital recorders?
From: "hartogj" hartogj
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:09 pm ((PDT))
Hi Andrew,
Thanks for sharing your perspectives.
Having listened to a number of your recordings, it seems that we share a 
similar approach to stereo compositions. It only takes two mics to record a 
good stereo perspective.

A layering technique for recording ocean surf has been recommended by both 
Bernie Krause and Chris Watson, so I am inclined to think it can work, and it 
has worked, at least for them. I have tried both of those techniques, and what 
I have decided is they do not necessarily make getting a good recording the 
ocean surf any easier than using just two mics from only one perspective.  

I do not have any fundamental objections to layering sounds, but I don't think 
it offers any benefit unless that is the only way to make the recorded material 
fit some set requirement for a commission or project. It may be a good learning 
experience to those who try it.

I am not sure I understand your perspective on visual vs auditory senses. For 
me, listening can be very much a visual experience as  soundscape recordings 
can evoke visual images of the imagined landscape. 

John Hartog

--- In  Andrew Skeoch <> wrote:
> Hi folks, 
> I feel this thread touches upon a really important issue. In deciding 
> appropriate technological approaches, we need to first be clear about why 
> we're listening. 
> It occurs to me that using multiple mic sources is actually an attempt to 
> synthesize a soundscape that accords more to our visual sense than our 
> auditory one. We are trying to hear the landscape the same way we see it - 
> separating it into discreet objects and recombining. But listening is not 
> seeing. Expansive listening gives us holistic information about what is 
> around us, and our relationship to it. And this is referenced upon the 
> human-scale listening experience of two ears hanging in the breeze. 
> For me; I want to reawaken my listening from its post-industrial torpor, and 
> enrich my relationship with the world around me. I utilise audio technology, 
> taking that human-scale listening as my reference point. 
> I could imagine an artistic agenda in exploring 'alternate sensory 
> viewpoints' though mixing multiple sources, but I can't help feeling that 
> there is nothing culturally radical in this, just an extension of our human 
> fascination with how much we can abstract and manipulate nature. Legerdemain. 
> How far can we go? 
> Personally, I'm with you on this one Geoff :)  Single point stereo; simple 
> technology, coherent information, fieldcraft, personal presence in the 
> landscape, deep listening (not to mention less time farting around in the 
> studio afterwards!). 
> To me, the important issue is not what I can DO with audio technology, but 
> how it can help me BE in the world. 
> Cheers, 
> Andrew
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