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2. Re: Simultaneous recording with two digital recorders?

Subject: 2. Re: Simultaneous recording with two digital recorders?
From: "soundings23" soundings23
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:44 am ((PDT))
Yes, been mulling this one over on and off. My original question was just about 
the possibilities and technical limitations of recording with two separate 
recorders, I didn't think much initially on the conceptual issues this might 

But, having been raised, and having read the numerous posts, I must admit I 
don't have any problems myself with it. A single point stereo recording can 
demonstrate human scale listening, sensitivity to sounds in a particular 
location, relying on careful listening, fieldcraft etc. But surely so can 
recording from multiple perspectives? Indeed I imagine the latter, as it would 
involve the sensitive placement of multiple recorders would require just as 
much attention if the aim is to say something about a soundscape and our 
relationship to it.

And as the end product is a transformation however its done, the technique only 
matters in so far as its successful in achieving the desire of the recordist. 
Microphones are not ears. 

all the best


--- In  "hartogj" <> wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
> Thanks for sharing your perspectives.
> Having listened to a number of your recordings, it seems that we share a 
> similar approach to stereo compositions. It only takes two mics to record a 
> good stereo perspective.
> A layering technique for recording ocean surf has been recommended by both 
> Bernie Krause and Chris Watson, so I am inclined to think it can work, and it 
> has worked, at least for them. I have tried both of those techniques, and 
> what I have decided is they do not necessarily make getting a good recording 
> the ocean surf any easier than using just two mics from only one perspective. 
> I do not have any fundamental objections to layering sounds, but I don't 
> think it offers any benefit unless that is the only way to make the recorded 
> material fit some set requirement for a commission or project. It may be a 
> good learning experience to those who try it.
> I am not sure I understand your perspective on visual vs auditory senses. For 
> me, listening can be very much a visual experience as  soundscape recordings 
> can evoke visual images of the imagined landscape. 
> John Hartog
> --- In  Andrew Skeoch <listen@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi folks, 
> > 
> > I feel this thread touches upon a really important issue. In deciding 
> > appropriate technological approaches, we need to first be clear about why 
> > we're listening. 
> > 
> > It occurs to me that using multiple mic sources is actually an attempt to 
> > synthesize a soundscape that accords more to our visual sense than our 
> > auditory one. We are trying to hear the landscape the same way we see it - 
> > separating it into discreet objects and recombining. But listening is not 
> > seeing. Expansive listening gives us holistic information about what is 
> > around us, and our relationship to it. And this is referenced upon the 
> > human-scale listening experience of two ears hanging in the breeze. 
> > 
> > For me; I want to reawaken my listening from its post-industrial torpor, 
> > and enrich my relationship with the world around me. I utilise audio 
> > technology, taking that human-scale listening as my reference point. 
> > 
> > I could imagine an artistic agenda in exploring 'alternate sensory 
> > viewpoints' though mixing multiple sources, but I can't help feeling that 
> > there is nothing culturally radical in this, just an extension of our human 
> > fascination with how much we can abstract and manipulate nature. 
> > Legerdemain. How far can we go? 
> > 
> > Personally, I'm with you on this one Geoff :)  Single point stereo; simple 
> > technology, coherent information, fieldcraft, personal presence in the 
> > landscape, deep listening (not to mention less time farting around in the 
> > studio afterwards!). 
> > 
> > To me, the important issue is not what I can DO with audio technology, but 
> > how it can help me BE in the world. 
> > 
> > Cheers, 
> > Andrew
> > 
> > 
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