Hi Munir,
The GL is apparently now discontinued so it is all academic but I disagree with
your B&H source. The GL offers higher gain, which would solve one of my issues
with the Nagra units.
While the specs are the same for the 7 series and 302/MixPre pre-amps the
construction is different, in fact the 788 is different again from the rest of
the 7 series recorders (in order to solve power issues associated with having
all those pres on board). Subjectively I believe there is a difference it's
just that it is not necessarily manifested purely in terms of noise. My
personal favourite mixer from SD is the old 442 which again has the same pres
as the MixPre along with a really good sounding and comprehensive filter
section.
Would be interested to know what you make of it all after your demo in November.
Cheers
Andy
--- In Munir kureshi <> wrote:
>
> Hi Jez, Andrew,
>
> When I ordered Nagra LB from B&H I also ordered Grace Lunatec and the guy
> suggested against getting GL preamp. He said it would not make any
> difference. When I got my SD788t, the distributor discouraged against 302
> mixer because the mixer in SD 7 series is as good as 302 mixer. I will the
> demo of SD when they come to San Francisco in November but it is ways down
> the road. Me too, if SD 302 makes ad difference then I will add it to my
> system.
>
> Hope there is more information on the subject.
>
> Munir.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:26 PM, "andrewrileysound" <> wrote:
>
> > Hi Jez,
> >
> > 1) Theoretically you could get an extra 18dB of gain on the line level
> > output from the 302 but I think they have a slightly lower gain than the
> > pres built into the 7 series recorders. I just did a quick subjective test
> > using my Mixpre (original issue :) ) into my 744 and I couldn't discern an
> > advantage to the gain staging suggested.
> >
> > 2) As far as I'm aware they are the same pre-amps as were in the old Mixpre
> > and are still listed as using Lundahl transformers on the input.
> >
> > Have you looked at/tried the Grace Lunatec? It would be great to know how
> > that compares to the SD stuff, on paper it looks amazing!
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > --- In "Jez" <tempjez@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have some simple questions if folks could give me some feedback please.
> > > Not sure why i've not got round to doing this kind of comparison before
> > > now - i've had plenty of field mixers on hand over the years !
> > >
> > > my questions are:
> > >
> > > 1) do you get any extra gain from attaching a SD 302 mixer to a 7 series
> > > recorder ? ie. with the same microphones plugged in do you get a higher
> > > level through the 302 into the recorder than you can get just going into
> > > the 7 series recorder & is it quieter that way than whacking the gain on
> > > the recorder up higher ?
> > >
> > > 2) are pre-amps / stages in the 302 analogue (like the old mixpre) ?
> > >
> > > i'm looking into adding a field mixer to my kit again & looking at
> > > various different models. The SD website has the frustrating habit of not
> > > doing like-for-like spec sheets & also, though i've searched all over the
> > > net, I can't find any reports on this kind of simple test.
> > >
> > > ta !
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause.
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