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I entirely agree with your tentative to categorize the recordings. I think =
naturecording is about aesthetics ( as in photography the event is irrepeti=
ble) but is also about science and categorization. I don't think we must ma=
ke a choice, the two things are all right: When you categorize aesthetics r=
esist to categorization but exactely this resistence is good to better sens=
e the aesthetics. So I favor a good form of categorization and would much a=
preciate a consensus after a good discussion here if possible. I would add =
that science is ok with purity but aesthetics no, so to me in naturecording=
the same spirit that makes science, categorization and thinks purity makes=
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