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Re: Taiji, Japan and the cove again...

Subject: Re: Taiji, Japan and the cove again...
From: "Bernie Krause" bigchirp1
Date: Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:35 pm ((PST))
Brilliant! Also check out "The Power of Nightmares." a terrific BBC
piece on our history. http://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmares


On Nov 13, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Mike Rooke wrote:

> Oh Dearism.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D8moePxHpvok
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> --- In  "hartogj"
> <> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Martyn,
>> Thank you for illuminating this conservation issue you see as
>> critical.
>>
>> Loss of large predators throws entire tropic webs out of balance -
>> potentially irreversibly.
>> I found this recent article from Science Magazine to be interesting:
>> http://people.biology.ufl.edu/rdholt/holtpublications/255.pdf
>>
>> While have not followed the Japan dolphin issues closely, this 2001
>> article "Japanese People Speak Out Against Whaling" gives a
>> seemingly logical perspective on a cultural complacency for
>> exploitation of whales and dolphins.
>> http://whales7.tripod.com/policies/japan.htm
>>
>> John Hartog
>> rockscallop.org
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>>
>> --- In  Martyn Stewart <mstew@>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The slaughter is legal but under Japanese law. when you think of
>>> cetaceans including all whales and the International whaling
>>> committee it becomes a joke.
>>> Dolphins, whales are all the same but Japan had small cetaceans
>>> removed from the list so that they could destroy them because they
>>> consider them as pests (IE, They eat bloody fish)
>>> Most of Asia buy dolphins for dolphinariums but also America (Sea
>>> World) and the middle east.
>>> Don't visit Sea World or any dolphinarium, it promotes this
>>> unethical act.
>>> Watch the cove.
>>>
>>> http://www.thecovemovie.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Martyn
>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>> Martyn Stewart
>>> www.naturesound.org
>>> www.soundofcritters.com
>>>
>>>
>>> 425-898-0462
>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>> Make every garden a wildlife habitat
>>>
>>> On Nov 12, 2011, at 10:42 PM, Eric wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for that data, Martyn. Pardon my ignorance. Am I to
>>>> understand then that all the slaughter is legally sanctioned by
>>>> the Japanese government? Or, does it choose to ignore the law?
>>>> Based on the prices, it would seem there is a significant demand
>>>> for dolphin meat there. Is that correct? Who's buying the
>>>> captive, live dolphins, and for what use?
>>>>
>>>> All the best,
>>>> Eric
>>>>
>>>> --- In  Martyn Stewart <mstew@>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> In real terms Eric, nobody profits from the loss of a species.
>>>>> Dolphins are declining rapidly around Japanese waters, quoters
>>>>> are not being met and very often than not the pods caught are an
>>>>> average of 10 as opposed to 30's and 40's over the previous years.
>>>>> In monetary terms they get $125,000 for a live dolphin and $500
>>>>> for the meat of a dead one. There is a fleet of 12 banger boats
>>>>> that enter the hunt each day at a cost of around 2k to run.
>>>>> The dolphin trade is a big business in Taiji selling many
>>>>> captive dolphins throughout the world and even inflating the
>>>>> prices to $200,000 to the middle east.
>>>>> Couple all of this though with how much Taiji and the government
>>>>> has to spend on resources including the security forces because
>>>>> of activists on the ground add up to around $2,000000 per season.
>>>>> Who profits? I'm not sure but Mother Earth looses big time
>>>>> regardless.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Martyn
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Martyn Stewart
>>>>> www.naturesound.org
>>>>> www.soundofcritters.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 425-898-0462
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Make every garden a wildlife habitat
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 4, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Eric wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps learning about whether dolphins are self-aware adds to
>>>>>> the horror...being discussed today 11/4/2011 on Science Friday: http=
://www.sciencefriday.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Pyschologist and dolphin researcher Diana Reiss discusses her
>>>>>> work with dolphin communication and cognition."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Expressions of moral outrage have been expressed here. I
>>>>>> wondered, have you analyzed and published about who profits
>>>>>> from this slaughter, Martyn?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- In  Martyn Stewart
>>>>>> <mstew@> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://soundofcritters.com/archives/1529
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just an update while i'm here in Japan.............. Still the
>>>>>>> atrocities continue...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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