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Re: Taiji, Japan and the cove again...

Subject: Re: Taiji, Japan and the cove again...
From: "Mike Rooke" picnet2
Date: Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:16 pm ((PST))
Oh Dearism.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D8moePxHpvok



--- In  "hartogj" <> wrote=
:
>
> Hi Martyn,
> Thank you for illuminating this conservation issue you see as critical.
>
> Loss of large predators throws entire tropic webs out of balance - potent=
ially irreversibly.
> I found this recent article from Science Magazine to be interesting:
> http://people.biology.ufl.edu/rdholt/holtpublications/255.pdf
>
> While have not followed the Japan dolphin issues closely, this 2001 artic=
le "Japanese People Speak Out Against Whaling" gives a seemingly logical pe=
rspective on a cultural complacency for exploitation of whales and dolphins=
.
> http://whales7.tripod.com/policies/japan.htm
>
> John Hartog
> rockscallop.org
>
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>
>
> --- In  Martyn Stewart <mstew@> wrote:
> >
> > The slaughter is legal but under Japanese law. when you think of cetace=
ans including all whales and the International whaling committee it becomes=
 a joke.
> > Dolphins, whales are all the same but Japan had small cetaceans removed=
 from the list so that they could destroy them because they consider them a=
s pests (IE, They eat bloody fish)
> > Most of Asia buy dolphins for dolphinariums but also America (Sea World=
) and the middle east.
> > Don't visit Sea World or any dolphinarium, it promotes this unethical a=
ct.
> > Watch the cove.
> >
> > http://www.thecovemovie.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Martyn
> > ------------------------------------------------
> > Martyn Stewart
> > www.naturesound.org
> > www.soundofcritters.com
> >
> >
> > 425-898-0462
> > -------------------------------------------------
> > Make every garden a wildlife habitat
> >
> > On Nov 12, 2011, at 10:42 PM, Eric wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for that data, Martyn. Pardon my ignorance. Am I to understand=
 then that all the slaughter is legally sanctioned by the Japanese governme=
nt? Or, does it choose to ignore the law? Based on the prices, it would see=
m there is a significant demand for dolphin meat there. Is that correct? Wh=
o's buying the captive, live dolphins, and for what use?
> > >
> > > All the best,
> > > Eric
> > >
> > > --- In  Martyn Stewart <mstew@> wrot=
e:
> > > >
> > > > In real terms Eric, nobody profits from the loss of a species. Dolp=
hins are declining rapidly around Japanese waters, quoters are not being me=
t and very often than not the pods caught are an average of 10 as opposed t=
o 30's and 40's over the previous years.
> > > > In monetary terms they get $125,000 for a live dolphin and $500 for=
 the meat of a dead one. There is a fleet of 12 banger boats that enter the=
 hunt each day at a cost of around 2k to run.
> > > > The dolphin trade is a big business in Taiji selling many captive d=
olphins throughout the world and even inflating the prices to $200,000 to t=
he middle east.
> > > > Couple all of this though with how much Taiji and the government ha=
s to spend on resources including the security forces because of activists =
on the ground add up to around $2,000000 per season.
> > > > Who profits? I'm not sure but Mother Earth looses big time regardle=
ss.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Martyn
> > > > ------------------------------------------------
> > > > Martyn Stewart
> > > > www.naturesound.org
> > > > www.soundofcritters.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 425-898-0462
> > > > -------------------------------------------------
> > > > Make every garden a wildlife habitat
> > > >
> > > > On Nov 4, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Eric wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps learning about whether dolphins are self-aware adds to th=
e horror...being discussed today 11/4/2011 on Science Friday: http://www.sc=
iencefriday.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > "Pyschologist and dolphin researcher Diana Reiss discusses her wo=
rk with dolphin communication and cognition."
> > > > >
> > > > > Expressions of moral outrage have been expressed here. I wondered=
, have you analyzed and published about who profits from this slaughter, Ma=
rtyn?
> > > > >
> > > > > All the best,
> > > > > Eric
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In  Martyn Stewart <mstew@> =
wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://soundofcritters.com/archives/1529
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just an update while i'm here in Japan.............. Still the =
atrocities continue...
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