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Re: Taiji, Japan and the cove again...

Subject: Re: Taiji, Japan and the cove again...
From: "hartogj" hartogj
Date: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:33 am ((PST))
Hi Martyn,
Thank you for illuminating this conservation issue you see as critical.

Loss of large predators throws entire tropic webs out of balance - potentia=
lly irreversibly.
I found this recent article from Science Magazine to be interesting:
http://people.biology.ufl.edu/rdholt/holtpublications/255.pdf

While have not followed the Japan dolphin issues closely, this 2001 article=
 "Japanese People Speak Out Against Whaling" gives a seemingly logical pers=
pective on a cultural complacency for exploitation of whales and dolphins.=

http://whales7.tripod.com/policies/japan.htm

John Hartog
rockscallop.org






--- In  Martyn Stewart <> wrote:
>
> The slaughter is legal but under Japanese law. when you think of cetacean=
s including all whales and the International whaling committee it becomes a=
 joke.
> Dolphins, whales are all the same but Japan had small cetaceans removed f=
rom the list so that they could destroy them because they consider them as =
pests (IE, They eat bloody fish)
> Most of Asia buy dolphins for dolphinariums but also America (Sea World) =
and the middle east.
> Don't visit Sea World or any dolphinarium, it promotes this unethical act=
.
> Watch the cove.
>
> http://www.thecovemovie.com/
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> Martyn
> ------------------------------------------------
> Martyn Stewart
> www.naturesound.org
> www.soundofcritters.com
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> 425-898-0462
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> Make every garden a wildlife habitat
>
> On Nov 12, 2011, at 10:42 PM, Eric wrote:
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> > Thanks for that data, Martyn. Pardon my ignorance. Am I to understand t=
hen that all the slaughter is legally sanctioned by the Japanese government=
? Or, does it choose to ignore the law? Based on the prices, it would seem =
there is a significant demand for dolphin meat there. Is that correct? Who'=
s buying the captive, live dolphins, and for what use?
> >
> > All the best,
> > Eric
> >
> > --- In  Martyn Stewart <mstew@> wrote:
> > >
> > > In real terms Eric, nobody profits from the loss of a species. Dolphi=
ns are declining rapidly around Japanese waters, quoters are not being met =
and very often than not the pods caught are an average of 10 as opposed to =
30's and 40's over the previous years.
> > > In monetary terms they get $125,000 for a live dolphin and $500 for t=
he meat of a dead one. There is a fleet of 12 banger boats that enter the h=
unt each day at a cost of around 2k to run.
> > > The dolphin trade is a big business in Taiji selling many captive dol=
phins throughout the world and even inflating the prices to $200,000 to the=
 middle east.
> > > Couple all of this though with how much Taiji and the government has =
to spend on resources including the security forces because of activists on=
 the ground add up to around $2,000000 per season.
> > > Who profits? I'm not sure but Mother Earth looses big time regardless=
.
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> > > Martyn
> > > ------------------------------------------------
> > > Martyn Stewart
> > > www.naturesound.org
> > > www.soundofcritters.com
> > >
> > >
> > > 425-898-0462
> > > -------------------------------------------------
> > > Make every garden a wildlife habitat
> > >
> > > On Nov 4, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Eric wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps learning about whether dolphins are self-aware adds to the =
horror...being discussed today 11/4/2011 on Science Friday: http://www.scie=
ncefriday.com/
> > > >
> > > > "Pyschologist and dolphin researcher Diana Reiss discusses her work=
 with dolphin communication and cognition."
> > > >
> > > > Expressions of moral outrage have been expressed here. I wondered, =
have you analyzed and published about who profits from this slaughter, Mart=
yn?
> > > >
> > > > All the best,
> > > > Eric
> > > >
> > > > --- In  Martyn Stewart <mstew@> wr=
ote:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://soundofcritters.com/archives/1529
> > > > >
> > > > > Just an update while i'm here in Japan.............. Still the at=
rocities continue...
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