I'm not a field recording expert or guru in any sort of way, but I am
surprised you say that the 416's are too noisy?
When recording low volume sounds, I think it's important to keep in mind
that they should be auditioned at a similarly low volume as well. Noise
should be much less of a problem in that case, especially when recorded wit=
mics that have such a low self noise such as the 416s. I believe the mantra
of nature recordists is everything below 16 dBA self noise is suitable for
nature recording, and your 416s are at about 12dBA i think?
As for MS, you could pretty much get a MKH30 side and have one of your 416s
and the mid. It will sound great, although you will be confined to about 90
degrees width of 'proper' stereo image due to the polar pattern tightness o=
the 416. If you have some cash lying about, I would get a MKH 8040 as your
mid mic together with a MKH 30. Then you can simply make beautiful
recordings that have a fantastic stereo representation, and low noise as
well - but not lower than what you are already used to (unless your 416s ar=
broken, but that seems unlikely).
If you want extreme portability and have plenty of money, maybe get a
Schoeps MS, as they're so damn small... you could get one of those baby
ballgags wind shields then. Although I've heard from various corners that
Schoeps can be troublesome when it comes to humidity (but have similarly
heard the exact opposite as well, so that seems a bit of an open debate).
Alternatively, the most simple and portable solution would be to get a Sony
D50 I suppose!
Hope it helps a bit,
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 10:08 PM, zen_leprechaun
> Hi everyone,
> I'm new to this group and excited to have been accepted. I joined because
> I'm having difficulty finding the answer to my question elsewhere and all
> posts seem to lead back to this group. I'm headed out next month to hike =
> John Muir Trail in central California (from Yosemite to Mt. Whitney). I a=
> location sound mixer and sound effects editor and am looking to gather so=
> new material while I'm on this hike. I'm looking for an answer as to what
> people think might be the best solution for gathering stereo recordings o=
> the trail.
> My current location rig (that I take backpacking as well) includes a Soun=
> Devices 302 mixer, 744t recorder, 2 Sennheiser 416's, stereo mount, and a=
> Aquarian Audio hydrophone (can be cool as a contact mic every once in a
> I love my 416's but the self noise gets to be really problematic when the
> element I'm trying to record is low (which unfortunately kills a lot of w=
> would otherwise be nice bird bg's, etc.). This also leads to excessively
> EQ'ing or denoising the end product, when the recording is low, and it
> really affects the overall depth of the recording in a negative way. I've
> been looking into an MS setup, but am curious what people would recommend
> for this? On the trail I'm hoping for a generally dry experience (will of
> course prep for water as needed) but I'm trying to take that into
> consideration for which mics are the best candidate. I've also looked int=
> the Telinga parabolic setups (the DATmic Twin Science looked particularly
> intriguing) and am curious if anyone has used those before?
> Any advice on this dilemma would be greatly appreciated! I look forward t=
> sharing some recordings when I get back, and hopefully they'll be even
> better after receiving advice from the experts here in the nature recordi=
> niche. Thank you for reading this post, and in advance for any advice giv=
> Durand Trench
Daan Hendriks - Audiomotif
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