"HOWEVER, I'm glad you thought I meant clip-on-mics, because I use them mys=
elf
and want much better "binaural" mics."
Better than what??
Klas
At 02:10 2011-05-10, you wrote:
>this is helpful, klas. musicians don't know the olympus recorders.
>further, I've heard complaints with the sony stereo array.
>and, yes, I thought the bass roll off eliminated some of the lower end
>frequencies with the olympus (you're saying it doesn't)
>
>I felt concern about the sony menus (the sony does have level wheels).
>
>re clip on's - I was speaking of sound clips (segments of recorded sound).
>HOWEVER, I'm glad you thought I meant clip-on-mics, because I use them mys=
elf
>and want much better "binaural" mics. As well as a better small recorder (=
I
>bought the edirol hr09; also, have the fostex fr-2le). Thus, for me,
>limited PIP
>would be a problem.
>
>I'll pass this along. Many many thanks.
>lily
>
>
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Klas Strandberg <>
>To:
>Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 3:47:30 PM
>Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Re: Olympus LS-11
>
>
>I have recorded music with omnis many times, long ago, and it seldom
>sounds good. There are too much of phase problems cause of
>reflections. Usually the high frequencies get lost.
>Outdoors is another question: Omnis may sound excellent, but
>preferably if they are more apart than the Sony ones.
>
>I have never used a modern Sony recorder, so I can=C3=82=C2=B4t compare, b=
ut I
>really like the handling of the Olympus. Menus are simple and there
>are wheels to turn to set recording and headphone level.
>
>Yes, there is nothing wrong with the freq. response of the LS-11. All
>modern digital recorders perform better than the best analog Nagra...
>
>You mention the Clip.On's. If your friend would like to use them in a
>future, it's a border line case with the Sony, cause of it=C3=82=C2=B4s lo=
w PIP-voltage.
>
>Klas
>
>At 00:10 2011-05-10, you wrote:
> >well, hi, klas.
> >I didn't see this until after answering raimund.
> >
> >yes, indoors. ... including the car. wherever she has a musical thought.
> >hum....
> >
> >ok, would you respond to these thots of mine (not a musician). I kind th=
e
> >liveliness of acoustical space. I'm concerned about the bass roll off on=
the
> >olympus ls-10. my female ear hears strident.
> >
> >but I haven't heard the ls-11. the clips I've heard sound warm.
> >
> >do you think the ls 11 provides enough of the sound spectrum?
> she's concerned
> >about that.
> >I love the build of those machines.
> >
> >lily
> >
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> >From: Klas Strandberg <>
> >To:
> >Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 2:02:15 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Re: Olympus LS-11
> >
> >
> >Hi lily, Klas here,
> >
> >I would say that, recording music (indoors, I presume?) she will have
> >much better use of the two directional mic's of the LS-11, than of
> >the two omnis in Sony. The omnis will pick up too much of the room
> acoustics.
> >When singing or playing an instrument into the recorder, the self
> >noise level is not important.
> >Besides that I can tell that both of my Olympus are running fine even
> >though I use them every day.
> >
> >Klas
> >
> >At 20:43 2011-05-09, you wrote:
> > >Hi Raimund,
> > >
> > >Just to double check. are you saying the on-board mics of the Sony M10=
are
> > >quieter than the on-board mics of the Olympus? Or are you saying the S=
ony
> > >internal electronics are more quiet?
> > >
> > >She'll be using both the on-board mics and an external mic for song
> > >which will
> > >be sent to other musicians.
> > >
> > >Best,
> > >lily
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >________________________________
> > >From: Raimund <>
> > >To:
> > >Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 1:18:17 AM
> > >Subject: [Nature Recordists] Re: Olympus LS-11
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi Lily
> > >
> > >I would pick the Sony PCM-M10 because its internal (omni-directional)
> > >microphones are considerably quieter than those of the Olympus.
> > >
> > >The choice between the two recorders is of course also a matter
> of personal
> > >taste and would depend on the way how it is being used.
> > >
> > >
> > >For instance, I usually record only for relatively short periods of
> > >time and I
> > >regularly transfer the recordings to my computer once I returned
> > from a trip.
> > >The 4 GB built-in memory is therefore more than enough for me
> > >(providing a total
> > >recording time of 6 hours at 44.10kHz/16bit).
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >Raimund
> > >
> > >--- In Lily Plants
> <> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Raimund, thank you!
> > > >
> > > > I, too, have difficulty knowing how to evaluate for musicians.
> > I have will
> > > > propose: (1) that my friend go in with me to buy the Sony PCM-M10
> > > or Olympus
> > > > LS-11. or I'll get the Tascam DR-05 (the zoom is just too
> > > flimsy). Unless she
> > > > needs XLR.
> > > >
> > > > I've noticed talking with B&H pro audio, that they don't know
> the Olympus
> > > > recorders. If you had to choose between the Sony and the Olympus
> > > LS-11 would
> > > >you
> > > >
> > > > have a preference?
> > > >
> > > > My regards,
> > > > Lily
> > > > (I'm going to start another topic re XLR choices for my friend)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >------------------------------------
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> > >
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