Thanks for that link Rob. I never checked out the surround capabilities of =
QT.
The timing is great for my current project.
DMc
On Nov 8, 2010, at 8:06 AM, Rob Danielson wrote:
> At 4:12 PM +0000 11/8/10, gus wrote:
> >
> >
> >Hi Rob,
> >Its actually quite difficult to display this sort of work seeing as
> >it uses many many channels so you dont really get the effect from a
> >simple stereo recording. However this will give you a rough idea of
> >the sounds used :
> >
> ><http://soundcloud.com/augustine-leudar/biomes-at-night>http://soundclou=
d.com/augustine-leudar/biomes-at-night
> >
> >It is recomended that you put your speaker sin the bushes when
> >listening to this ! It may sound silly but I believe the modulation
> >of the leaves on the sound has a significant effect in the way the
> >sound gets dispersed.
>
> Hi Gus--
> Enjoyed the changing rhythms provided by the insects. Perhaps leaf
> diffusion lessens some of the higher frequencies in the insect calls
> making speaker location more mysterious?
>
> Some of the added elements mix into the space very well initially.
> This is a challenge to pull-off for longer periods as one becomes
> accustomed to the spatial cues and they can separate in the
> listener's construction. Location acoustics can play a role. If you
> haven't tried it, capturing reverb impulses at the recording sites
> can be useful. There are native and third party software options that
> will produce reverb settings with some common traits to make
> adjustments from. This feature is in Logic Audio's SoundDesiger plug;
> Nuendo probably has similar accommodations.
>
> Yes, a bunch of channels is tough to replicate, but four or five
> channels seems to be lot more illustrative than two. One not so
> complicated way to share 4-6 channel work using QT Pro:
> http://tinyurl.com/y5gbcd5 Also, ogg poly files play well in all
> browsers I've tried. Rob D.
>
> >
> >--- In
> ><naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>=
com,
> >Rob Danielson <> wrote:
> >>
> >> At 2:35 PM +0000 11/8/10, gus wrote:
> >> >Hello all. I am curtrently delivering the largest indoor sound art
> >> >installation in the world at the Eden project in Cornwall UK :
> >> >
> >> ><<http://www.edenproject.com/come-and-visit/whats-on/heart-of-darknes=
s.php>http://www.edenproject.com/come-and-visit/whats-on/heart-of-darkness.=
php><http://www.edenproject.com/come-and-visit/whats-on/heart-of-darkness.p=
hp>http://www.edenproject.com/come-and-visit/whats-on/heart-of-darkness.php
> >>
> >> Hi Gus--
> >> Congratulations! Are there possibly some samples of this work in
> >> surround you can direct us to? :-)
> >>
> >> >
> >> >this installation features many sounds I have recorded in surround
> >> >sound - it is diofferent to Chris Watsons at Kew as it has many
> >> >imaginary sounds mixed in with the authentic ones (it is soundARt
> >> >after all) . I am soon to return to the Amazon and am looking for
> >> >the best way to record in surround sound.
> >>
> >> Discussing what is "best" is always tough. It might be worthwhile to
> >> stroll through some of our thoughts on this topic since 2004:
> >> <http://tinyurl.com/2548eos>http://tinyurl.com/2548eos
> >>
> >>
> >> >Money is sort of an object but I dont really want to compromise on
> >> >quality. So what would be the best recorder to take with me this
> >> >time ? Would a Tascam 680 be OK in terms of noise ?
> >> >Or do I need an expensive Sound devices 788t. i would ideally like 4
> >> >XLR inputs. I am not using video equpiment so a lot of the features
> >> >for that are not necessary. It seems to me the noise in levels in
> >> >the microphones are important as well.
> >>
> >> Yes, mic self-noise can be very important if you plan to record in
> >> places that have low sound levels. See:
> >><http://tinyurl.com/34ojchb>http://tinyurl.com/34ojchb
> >> for matching issues.
> >>
> >> Rain forest locations can present fairly high sound levels so your
> >> immediate project might not warrant very low-noise mics. There are
> >> many recordists on this list who can provide much experience about
> >> this, just ask.
> >>
> >>
> >> >It also seems to me that the blind test between the sound devices
> >> >722 and tascam 680 had most people ahrd put to tell the difference
> >> >so would the extra price tag be really worth it for me ?
> > >
> >> It does take time to learn how to trust one's ears. If you are going
> >> to spend thousands, a dealer should be willing to help you make
> >> informed decisions. I suggest that you try out some very low noise
> >> mics and a 680 and see what you think under an agreement that you pay
> >> only a rental fee or be able to apply the investment towards other
> >> gear if you are not satisfied.
> >>
> >> >What mics would people suggest ?
> >>
> >> And array(s) for the mics should probably be considered at the same
> >> time. If you want to start experimenting and you want to have mics
> >> that are flexible, AT4022's are a safe investment. Others can address
> >> mic options for Ambisonics.
> >>
> >> >So far my method has to take surround sound quadrophonic recordings
> >> >and then transfer them directly on to four speakers after mixing in
> > > >nuendo - it works a treat - if you live near Eden come down and have
> >> >a listen every Friday and saturday in November .
> >> >Anyway any advice appreciated,
> >> >cheers,
> >> >Gus
> >> >
> >>
> >>
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