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Re: Post Processing -- what's legit and useful, from various points

Subject: Re: Post Processing -- what's legit and useful, from various points
From: "tgos3" tgos3
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 11:04 pm ((PDT))
Well of course you are right ;-)
Tomorrow I will set the mike stand nearer the frogs, and put the preamp and=
 recorder on a little table and then walk away and see if they start up aga=
in.  And there will be fireworks again, i guess...more spacemonkeys.  The f=
rogs actually shut up during the loudest of the explosions even though the =
fireworks are far away and soft sounding -- bight be the envelope character=
istics ---like a big frog far away...

Someone suggested off list to me that I consider using the XLR line outputs=
 of the MP2 into the line in of the M10, instead of using the 'consumer tap=
e out' of the MP2.  That sounds like a good idea, if it is ok to use someth=
ing like the

Hosa Y adapter:
 "CYX-402F  -- This cable is wired mini-phone Tip to Pin 2 LEFT channel, Ri=
ng to Pin 2 RIGHT channel, and sleeve to Pins 1 and 3 on both XLR connector=
s."

without losing too much level or causing grounding probs.....seems like it =
should work, according to the MP-2 instructions. If the M10 line-input is r=
eally able to stand +24dB without clipping, then the (? nominal +4dB) line =
out of the MP-2 should be fine, and more useful than the (? nominal -10dB) =
"tape out" I have been using.  I checked the instructions, but they don't c=
all out specific output levels, just 'consumer' vs. standard.  I'm assuming=
 the usual conventions.

Other MP-2 users/wizards -- is this ok and will it get me 10dB better (elec=
trical) S/N?

tedg

In  "hartogj" <> wrote:
>
> Hi Tedg,
> There are a number of ways to do it, but basically get your mics closer a=
nd your body further away.
>
> John Hartog

 "tgos3" <tedgosfield@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All
[..]
> > I'm recording some Cope's Gray Treefrogs (Hyla chrysoscelis) in my back=
 yard.  I have to stay about 40 feet from them or they shut up when they he=
ar me moving around, so far.  Maybe I'll get more skillful, or they will ge=
t braver.
> > I'm using a Sound Devices MP-2 into the M10, [...]a couple of Oktava Mk=
012 cardioid mikes, whose self noise (it says here) is about 10dB.  Neverth=
eless, it takes full gain on the MP-2, and full gain on the M10 to get any =
decent level (around -20 to -15 on the playback meters in Audacity)
> >
> > I end up normalizing to -3dB, but am left with a fair amount of noise, =
[...]








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