At 9:18 PM +0000 11/29/09, John Lundsten wrote:
><snip> I do post at the studio in Logic.
>JL} seems an odd choice to me, IMO it's great at MIDI & Music scores, (whi=
ch
>I don't understand at all well, to may regret) but as to it's Audio
>capabilities, well, not good, err quite bad IMO, but hey if it works for
>you, YMMV.
I've used Logic Audio as my audio file mixing app for stereo and
surround work since 2001. I've found it to be very workable and, at
times, very elegant. I worked with Audition for 2 years with my
students. For surround, the version of Audition I used handled files
as stereo so one had to make an elaborate patch for full panning on
all tracks. We could run nearly double the number of plugs in Logic
that we could run in a much faster, better endowed PC's using
Audition. In Logic, I can make cuts and dissolves on the same tracks
and across all tracks in 3-8 seconds and move on. Others have said
Samplitude has some great features. I've not had a chance to use it.
Randy wrote:
>Makes me wonder, how the rest of the folk here pull that one signal of
>interest out of the mud...
I may not be following exactly what you are asking,.. perhaps by
trying to reduce gear-contributed "mud" in the original recordings?
Here's a search of "clarity space" in the list archive.
http://tinyurl.com/ycdgs5h you can explore. Rob D.
>Randy
>
>JL} Adobe Audition vers3, IMO forget Sequencers, fine as they maybe, that
>have "Audio bolted-on", for a full-on, micro precision treatment of audio =
AA
>is the best, and Samplitude is pretty good at this stuff too.
>John L
>
>--- On Sun, 11/29/09, Rob Danielson
><<type%40uwm.edu>> wrote:
>
>> From: Rob Danielson <<type%40uwm.edu>>
>> Subject: Re: Fw: [Nature Recordists] diy mic outdoor enclosure
>> To:
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>> Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 7:38 AM
>>
>> At 11:57 PM +0000 11/28/09, John Lundsten wrote:
>> >>"Rob Danielson" wrote
>> >
>> >>>RODE D-PowerPlug seems like a good option ....
>> >>>As a phantom-powered, 20dB gain preamp,the
>> D-PowerPlug isn't
>> >>>overly quiet (-116 dBu A weighted), but
>> perhapsquiet enough for
>> >>>your ribbon mics.
>> >
>> >>This maybe a good option but I have my doubts. I
>> would be
>> >>interested in a comparison between a 24bit
>> recording of the ribbon
>> >>mics one with the Rode D & the other without
>> but raised 20dB in
>> >>post. My suspicion is that so long as there is good
>> low level info
>> >>as you get with 24bit, just raising the may be very
>> low lever
>> >>recording may well give lower noise & otherwise
>> give as
>> >>good if not better results.
>> >>The thing is ribbon mics don't really have a noise
>> figure, the
>> >>noise you endup with will be down to the basic
>> thermal noise of the
>> >>source Z and how "well balanced" the system is. IE
>> there will be
>> >>signals at the micro-volt level you wish to drag up
>> in level, so
>> >>RF, hum etc picked up on the cable needs to be
>> exceptionally low,
>> >>compared to a more robust signal level.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>John Lundsten
>> >
>>
>> Hi John-
>> I think you're right. Adding lower quality pres up-stream
>> from his
>> recorder would likely introduce more noise than
>> necessary. What
>> external mic pre or recorder are you using Randy?
>>
>> With mic sensitivity of only -56 dB +/- 2 dB (0 dB=3D1V/Pa)
>> ~1.6mV/Pa?
>> and recording ambience in quiet natural locations, don't
>> you think
>> most of the noise will stem from the mic pre? This seemed
>> to be the
>> case in a couple of experiments Curt and Mike shared with
>> me, but I
>> had no way to know for sure.
>>
>> Are you getting sufficient monitoring levels in the field,
>> Randy? If
>> not, it might be better to add some amplification to the
>> headphone
>> output. If you don't have a great quality pre to continue
>> your
>> experiment with, maybe you could borrow one and crank the
>> line-input
>> gain on the recorder too for more sound file saturation to
> > see if
>> this helps. Rob D.
>>
>> =3D =3D =3D
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>>
>> "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
>> sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via
>> Bernie Krause
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>>
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