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Re: QuickTime- State of Media Sharing Practices (was Loons by John N

Subject: Re: QuickTime- State of Media Sharing Practices (was Loons by John N
From: "Max" oatcruncher
Date: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:41 am ((PDT))
Hi Rob!
Thanks a lot for an authorative look at this particular problem.
Re your question to me; no, unfortunately (it seems) I run XP Pro64 which isn't 
catered for, only Vista 64. I will try FlashGot later and let you know the 
result. You're painting a picture of more problems to come Rob, let's hope that 
solutions arise to combat them!
Max

--- In  Rob Danielson <> wrote:
>
> Hi Jim and Max--
> 
> QuickTime Pro's "Save Source As" is no longer working for me-- not 
> just on Kevin's site.  I thought that upgrading to v7.6 would restore 
> it, but not so. Perhaps QT "looks backs" to Apple for some service 
> component and its no longer being offered. Has anyone else with QT 
> Pro noticed this-- no "Save Source As" pull-down window when a QT 
> object loads in a browser window?
> 
> If so, this might portend some issues those of us who spend time 
> sharing media with others (more below).
> 
> Max, did you install and try iTunes? That's the "streamlining" 
> download service that Kevin's site is encouraging us to use.
> 
> Another QT-based work-around that usually works to copy the URL for 
> the QT embedded media file and paste that directly into QTPro (File-> 
> Open URL). Once the media file fully loads, you can use "Save-As" to 
> save it on your computer. However, Kevin's CSS template hides the URL 
> in the source code of his site so this method is defeated. More and 
> more sites are doing this, intentionally or not. You can also use the 
> open URL trick in MPEG Streamclip which is cross-platform. 
> http://www.squared5.com/
> 
> I suspect a big source of our recent downloading difficulties is the 
> "You Tube," etc video explosion and on-going efforts to protect these 
> media files from copying. Our audio gets affected as we "upgrade" to 
> new combo audio/video and browser apps.
> 
> The only other "solution" I know of is impermanent :-( and employs 
> recent downloading "extensions" within FireFox. The FireFox extension 
> that currently works for me on Kevin's site is called, 
> "FlashGotMedia" http://flashgot.net/features. There's a little movie 
> icon in the lower right corner of the FireFox browser page with a 
> progress bar. After you set the download location (which a prompt 
> should request as you install it) then click on the icon and it will 
> download it to the folder you selected.  You need FireFox v3.5 and 
> QuickTime.
> 
> Below are some other FireFox extensions you can install and try. Most 
> of them are primarily for flash media but people use flash to embed 
> QT objects.
> 
> Fast Video Download 2.02
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3590
> 
> Video DownloadHelper
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3006
> 
> 1-Click YouTube Video Download
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/13990
> 
> To update your extensions in the future, go to this page and sort 
> them by "recent"
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?sort=newest&q=video&appid=1&cat=0%2C0&tag=&atype=-1&pid=-1&lup=&lver=-1&pp
> 
> 
> This predicament is probably going worsen with more propriety media 
> being sold or otherwise restricted on the internet. A codec is made 
> available "free" initially and then later, only through purchase. Its 
> unlikely iTunes will provide the free services like podcasts 
> indefinitely; all such applications are likely vulnerable. Its 
> ridiculous to have to rebuild one's web site because a corporation 
> changes their policies, but it shouldn't surprise us as lots of 
> people go to work everyday figuring out ways to make the internet 
> make money for them.
> 
> There are some open source media sharing tools that the profiteers 
> can't mess with like Ogg that we might want to start exploring. My 
> goal is a long(er) term solution so the work I intend to share, is 
> easily shareable.
> 
> I've played with Ogg some and I'm getting 2041 errors. Anyone getting 
> Ogg to encode for them on a PPC Mac (10.4.11)?  Rob D.
> 
> 








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