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Subject: [Nature Recordists] QuickTime- State of Media Sharing Practices (was Loons by John Neville
From: Rob Danielson <>
  
Hi Jim and Max--

QuickTime Pro's "Save Source As" is no longer working for me-- not 
just on Kevin's site.  I thought that upgrading to v7.6 would restore 
it, but not so. Perhaps QT "looks backs" to Apple for some service 
component and its no longer being offered. Has anyone else with QT 
Pro noticed this-- no "Save Source As" pull-down window when a QT 
object loads in a browser window?

If so, this might portend some issues those of us who spend time 
sharing media with others (more below).

Max, did you install and try iTunes? That's the "streamlining" 
download service that Kevin's site is encouraging us to use.

Another QT-based work-around that usually works to copy the URL for 
the QT embedded media file and paste that directly into QTPro (File-> 
Open URL). Once the media file fully loads, you can use "Save-As" to 
save it on your computer. However, Kevin's CSS template hides the URL 
in the source code of his site so this method is defeated. More and 
more sites are doing this, intentionally or not. You can also use the 
open URL trick in MPEG Streamclip which is cross-platform. 
http://www.squared5 .com/

I suspect a big source of our recent downloading difficulties is the 
"You Tube," etc video explosion and on-going efforts to protect these 
media files from copying. Our audio gets affected as we "upgrade" to 
new combo audio/video and browser apps.

The only other "solution" I know of is impermanent :-( and employs 
recent downloading "extensions" within FireFox. The FireFox extension 
that currently works for me on Kevin's site is called, 
"FlashGotMedia" http://flashgot. net/features. There's a little movie 
icon in the lower right corner of the FireFox browser page with a 
progress bar. After you set the download location (which a prompt 
should request as you install it) then click on the icon and it will 
download it to the folder you selected.  You need FireFox v3.5 and 
QuickTime.

Below are some other FireFox extensions you can install and try. Most 
of them are primarily for flash media but people use flash to embed 
QT objects.

Fast Video Download 2.02
https://addons. mozilla.org/ en-US/firefox/ addon/3590

Video DownloadHelper
https://addons. mozilla.org/ en-US/firefox/ addon/3006

1-Click YouTube Video Download
https://addons. mozilla.org/ en-US/firefox/ addon/13990

To update your extensions in the future, go to this page and sort 
them by "recent"
https://addons. mozilla.org/ en-US/firefox/ search?sort= newest&q= video&appid= 
1&cat=0%2C0& tag=&atype= -1&pid=-1& lup=&lver= -1&pp

This predicament is probably going worsen with more propriety media 
being sold or otherwise restricted on the internet. A codec is made 
available "free" initially and then later, only through purchase. Its 
unlikely iTunes will provide the free services like podcasts 
indefinitely; all such applications are likely vulnerable. Its 
ridiculous to have to rebuild one's web site because a corporation 
changes their policies, but it shouldn't surprise us as lots of 
people go to work everyday figuring out ways to make the internet 
make money for them.

There are some open source media sharing tools that the profiteers 
can't mess with like Ogg that we might want to start exploring. My 
goal is a long(er) term solution so the work I intend to share, is 
easily shareable.

I've played with Ogg some and I'm getting 2041 errors. Anyone getting 
Ogg to encode for them on a PPC Mac (10.4.11)?  Rob D.

= = = = =

At 4:13 AM -0700 10/21/09, Jim Morgan wrote:
>Rob Danielson sent me some tips on how I might get itunes to play on 
>my windows 2000 system but none would work for me.
>
>Thanks so much for trying Rob, I guess I need to update my old computer.
>
>Jim Morgan
>



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