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Re: Does PIP increase LF noise?

Subject: Re: Does PIP increase LF noise?
From: "Rob Danielson" danielson_audio
Date: Sun Jul 5, 2009 1:43 pm ((PDT))
>
>Hi Klas,
>
>...
>However, I guess that this increased PIP noise is not relevant when
>using a typical PIP microphone, which itself usually also exhibits a
>higher inherent noise level that probably masks this current
>generator noise. This would most likely also apply for your quieter
>Telinga PIP mics as long as they provide a sufficiently high
>absolute output level.
>
>In any case, it would be safe to switch off the PIP voltage option
>when using self-powered microphones such as the Sennheiser K6/ME6x
>series models for instance.
>
>Regards,
>Raimund

I'm trying to think of the practical implications even before we do testing=
,..

As Raimund says:
1) Switch off the PIP if your recorder has this option and you can
power your mics with an internal such as the ME-10's, but note,..

2) For the majority of PIP mics whose self-noise is 22dB(A)or
greater, any generated PIP noise is not likely to be audible. Any
noise generated by the PIP circuits is not likely to be an issue with
these noisier mics.

3) Those folks who are looking at recorders to use with Klas's EM-23
mics (~14dB[A] self-noise) should invest in a recorder that has input
noise of -122 dBu or less. The LS-10 is the only recorder at this
point that might be on the borderline and it does have switch-able
PIP so using a battery box is an option.

For practical purposes though, the EM23's are the only mics I can
think of that one can use to test whether the PIP in the LS-10
generates noise. Luckily, Klas has both. :-) Rob D.


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