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Re: R-09HR, R-44 preamp comparisons

Subject: Re: R-09HR, R-44 preamp comparisons
From: "Rob Danielson" danielson_audio
Date: Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:51 am ((PDT))
At 5:13 PM +0000 8/23/08, oryoki2000 wrote:
>Scott Fisher, proprietor of Digifish Music in Adelaide, Australia, has
>made several revealing tests of the new Edirol R-09HR portable
>recorder. Scott's results were reported on the Tapers Section forums.
>
>Here's a comparison of the internal mic pres of the R-09HR, the
>original R-09, and the new four channel R-44, all from Edirol. Scott
>used a pair of Audio Technica AT3032 mics and ART battery box.
>
><http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,109081.msg1456339.html>http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,109081.msg1456339.html
>
>Scott compared the three recorders with internal mics, recording the
>street scene outside his front door.
>
><http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,108779.0.html>http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,108779.0.html
>
>Scott also recorded "ticking clock" sounds. The R-09HR with AT3032
>and battery box, recorded via mic input, is compared with the AT3032
>and Sound Devices Mixpre, recorded via line input.
>
><http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,105893.msg1443847.html#msg1443847>http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,105893.msg1443847.html#msg1443847
>
>All three web links have downloadable WAV and MP3 samples.
>
>--oryoki
>

Hi Oryoki-
Thanks for announcing and summarizing Scott's reports. His 
AT-3032's/Art Phantom II combo does indeed provide a very useful 
reference for many on this list.

Scott's internal mic pre comparisons seem to be fairly consistent 
with Raimund's input Equivalent Input Noise (EIN) measurements for 
the stereo recorders:
http://www.avisoft.com/recordertests.htm
Edirol R-09  (MIC Gain HIGH)    -105dBu  (A-weighted)
Edirol R-09HR (MIC Gain H)      -118dBu  (A-weighted)
(Larger negative numbers = lower noise)

For demanding situations like recording ambience in quiet locations, 
its ideal if the recorder's input noise is inaudible "behind" the 
self-noise produced by the mics. This might mean input noise 
performance around -126dBu  (A-weighted) for the AT-3032 mic with 
~8dB(A) self-noise.  Although Scott's test shows that the R-09HR's 
pre noise performance is a significant improvement over the R-09's, 
its not as "exceptional" as some nature recordists might have been 
hoping for.  Rob D. 
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