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Re: European montane mystery sound

Subject: Re: European montane mystery sound
From: "Chris Hails" chrishails50
Date: Wed Aug 8, 2007 9:39 pm ((PDT))
Thanks Rombout - I know you have good ears also, so my mystery
continues ! I fear it may be next year before I can track this down
as it is now going very quiet here (not helped by some absolutely
awful weather !). Do you have a reference recording of this Willow
Tit song you could share with me ? I'd love to compare the
spectrograms. Contact me off-line if you prefer.

Chris

--- In  "rombout_de_wijs"
<> wrote:
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> Your sound resembles a song type I know from the Willow Tits in the
> marsh area's in our Low Countries. This song type over here is only
> performed occasionally in spring and is not very well known by Dutch
> birders. I can imagine that the alpine Willow Tits will perform a
> similar song type in the way you have recorded it.
>
> Rombout de Wijs
>
> --- In  "Chris Hails" <cjhails@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Isn't this a great group when friends you've never met go the
extra
> > mile to help you out ??!
> >
> > Thanks a lot for doing this Matthieu. I think I know Willow Tits
> > pretty well and actually, somewhere in my "gut", a Redpoll makes
more
> > sense, they were definitely around during that trip but not
singing
> > (the ones I saw that is). Most reference material I can find is
all
> > about their rattling songs, but I cannot find much reference
material
> > on C.f.cabaret (which the Brits now recognise as a separate
> > species "Lesser Redpoll" - see the BOU site). I will store this
> > opinion away and chase it down: French birders who know the
mountains
> > need to be listened to. Thanks also for the link to that great
> > Sonatura blog site that I had not seen before.
> >
> > Tero - thanks also for your Great Tit opinion, I know, I know, I
am
> > endlessly suspicious of that creature - but this time I think it
is
> > not.....(famous last words which I may have to eat !!).
> >
> > Thanks guys for your interest and encouHiragement with my dilema.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In  Matthieu Crocq
> > <matthieu.crocq@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Chris Hails wrote:
> > > >
> > > >   Matthieu: you could be right about Greenfinch, although I
have
> > never
> > > >   heard them do this before, but I can see where you are
coming
> > from.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Chris:
> > >
> > > As a matter of facts, I may be wrong with my Greenfinch
guess...
> > oops!
> > > I've asked two friends from the French nature recordists'
> > association
> > > Sonatura (*) and both of them (much stronger than I am at those
> > > identification games!) think it's probably the alpine subspecies
> > > of Meally Redpoll (Carduelis flammea cabaret). But they warn
that
> > > it may also be an atypical call of the alpine Willow Tit (Parus
> > > montanus montanus), although the Meally Redpoll hypothesis seems
> > > the best one.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > (*) Sonatura's audioblog is here : http://audioblog.sonatura.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>






"While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause


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