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Re: - DIY shockmounts

Subject: Re: - DIY shockmounts
From: "Rob Danielson" danielson_rob
Date: Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:35 am (PDT)
Hi Lou--
Yes, the possibility of a singing shockmount.  It does look like
Graham's pipe extends closer to the capsules than it needs to.
Positioning the rubber bands on the ends of the pipe rather than on
the inside of the hoops might be a quick adjustment he can make.

Our goal in the design for the NT-4 that ending up using 3" PVC pipe
was to effectively suspend this heavy mic with as low of a profile as
possible (and that anyone could make with simple tools/materials).
The commercial mounts we tried were too short to prevent pivoting and
too stiff to isolate handing noise enough for our tastes. We are now
cutting away more of the pipe to reduce weight and lingering
suspicions like yours,..
http://www.uwm.edu/~type/audio-reports/DIY_NT4_3inchPVC_ShockZep/DIY_NT4_3i=
nchPVC_ShockZep.html

But, even with our first design, I found that I was not able to
detect any change with the X-Y cardioid mic in our mount or out of it
in back to back recordings of room tone at full gain. Never tested it
with an omni though.

The NT-4's bulk and front-heavy weight distribution presents a
challenge to be sure. When the mic is lighter, like an NT1-A, you can
see how much easier it is to get further away from the capsules with
less remaining tube:
http://www.uwm.edu/~type/audio-reports/QuadPacConstruction/QuadPacConstruct=
ion-Pages/Image18.html

Better solutions always appreciated!  Rob D.

  =3D =3D =3D =3D

At 9:12 AM -0700 6/13/06, Lou Judson wrote:
>Re: [Nature Recordists] - DIY shockmounts
>
>I am curious - with all of these home brew pipe shockmounts I've seen
>pictured recently, doesn't the presence of the pipe right at the pickup
>end of the mic give reflections and coloration to the sound? It looks
>like putting the mic inside, well, a pipe, or tunnel!
>
>If I were building such a device - and I have in the past - I would
>keep the pipe pieces at least one-third of the way back from the
>diaphragms, so they are picking up in free space and not peeking out
>from inside a pipe....
>
>Maybe someone can experiment with recording with the business end of
>the mic out from the pipe and putting back nearly inside the pipe and
>see if there is a coloration of the sound....
>
><L>
>
>Lou Judson * Intuitive Audio
>415-883-2689
>
>On Jun 13, 2006, at 1:06 AM,  wrote:
>
>>  1. yet another diy nt4 wind/shock solution
>>      Posted by: "Graham Evans"  grayboodle
>>      Date: Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:20 am (PDT)
>>
>>  as promised:
>>  http://www.karricountry.com/audioOnline/diyshockmount.html
>>
>>  This gadget seems designed for a very long shotgun mic.  Not sure why I
>>  put in so much extra space up front.  I could eliminate it without too
>>  much trouble but I can't see it doing any harm and perhaps one day I
>>  will buy a very long shotgun mic...
>>
>>  Graham
>>
>
>
>Lou Judson * Intuitive Audio
>415-883-2689
>
>
>
>
>"Microphones are not ears,
>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>A listening room is not nature."
>Klas Strandberg
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


--
Rob Danielson
Peck School of the Arts
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
http://www.uwm.edu/~type/audio-art-tech-gallery/







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