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Re: mastering for cheap cd players

Subject: Re: mastering for cheap cd players
From: "Rich Peet" <>
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 04:46:32 -0000
Nope, I mean -5db.
It sounds like wrap around distortion to me but will defer to others
as to what type it is.  Things just get screwed with birds over 5,000
cycles with any type of loudness.

I best use my own sound file rather than dis anothers perfectly good
stuff.

First call is a minidisc recording and the second half is the same
recording burned to redbook cd and played back under the cheap CD
player by line out into my RME A/D.  It sounds like the same junk with
any high pitched loud birds and this is not the first cheap cd I have
heard this problem on.  This is why the only work around I can see is
to not master over -5db.  Let me know what all of you think.

Not even trying to make this Chestnut-sided Warbler small. A 5.7 meg
download
http://home.comcast.net/~richpeet/0659.wav

Rich

--- In  Jeremiah Moore <>
wrote:
>
> I think you may mean -0.5 dBFS (deciBels relative to digital Full
> Scale) ...  Many commercially mastered CDs have average levels *over*
> -5dBFS
>
> The "loudness wars" are a terrible thing for audio quality...
>
> Lots of depth in Bob Katz's article here:
> http://tinyurl.com/2botf
>
> -jeremiah
>
>
>
> >I requested an inexpensive cd with mp3 player for xmas.
> >
> >It is important to note that these cheap players people commonly use
> >distort if they see a sound above -5db.  Playing some mass produced
> >nature sound cd's I see warblers commonly distorting because they go
> >above -5.
> >
> >Rich
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Microphones are not ears,
> >Loudspeakers are not birds,
> >A listening room is not nature."
> >Klas Strandberg
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> jeremiah lyman moore | SOUND | 
> http://jeremiahmoore.com/  professional site and reel
> http://babyjane.com/timeweb/  personal site
> http://northstation.net/  downtempo acid jazz project
>







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