long time ago, i had posted a magpie robin calling
with an aircraft coming in to land right overhead. and
you can hear the magpie robin get louder and louder as
the plane approaches. i think the clip is still there
in the group files section.
umashankar
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--- "Kevin J. Colver" <> wrote:
> I have also noticed this phenomenon of birds singing
> more loudly or
> vigorously during an airplane flyby. I originally
> attributed it to
> Murphy's law, the best stuff was always destroyed by
> human noise.=20
> Then, one day while recording a Mountain Bluebird
> song I noticed he
> sang louder during loud wind gusts and quieted when
> the wind calmed.
>
> Certainly birds and frogs have vocalized in the
> presence of white noise
> (wind, waves, waterfalls, rushing creeks) for
> millions of years and
> must have some adaptations for it, depending on the
> species and habitat
> involved. I wonder if anyone has studied this
> natural adaptation to
> nature's noise. Bernie and others, what do you know
> about this?
>
> Kevin Colver
>
>
> On Monday, September 5, 2005, at 10:02 AM, Don Lloyd
> wrote:
>
> > I recall that Don Hunter produced a couple of LPs
> in the 50's,
> > featuring
> > some very long takes of steam locomotives idling,
> braking, chuffing up
> > steep
> > grades and whistling down canyonways. Haven't come
> across any CD
> > reissues,
> > though. (I wonder if he edited out any bird calls
> or animal sounds as
> > "noise.")
> >
> > I believe some critters take advantage of pink
> noise 'confusing the
> > space',
> > as you put it. Whilst recording in marshes, I've
> noticed frogs and
> > red-wing
> > blackbirds (among others) piping up when a jet
> plane blankets the area
> > in
> > pink noise, or when a diesel truck downshifts on a
> nearby hill. When
> > the jet
> > or truck fades away, the frog chorus has reached
> critical mass and
> > continues
> > on its own for a while, only to eventually die
> down and await the next
> > protective, predator-disorienting pink blanket.
> >
> > Clearly, the real trick to enjoying machine sounds
> (and the dinosaur
> > spirits
> > dwelling therein) is being able to start and stop
> them at will. That's
> > okay
> > for me, but my houseguests and neighbors might
> disagree. ;>)
> >
> > -- Don
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > On
> Behalf Of Rob Danielson
> > Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 11:50 AM
> > To:
> > Subject: RE: [Nature Recordists] historical
> recordings (was respectful,
> > "topic" question
> >
> > Great link Don! Even the few, chopped whistles
> > tweaked my full curiosity. I found myself
> > longing to hear several different recordings of
> > whistle blasts shrinking into valleys of Oregon.
> >
> > I wonder, what medium, other than sound, can
> > claim to be a better historical record of the
> > experience of space? Can't all animals can
> > navigate by hearing where they are? Some species
> > use local resonances to amplify their calls and
> > sometimes its easier to hear these naturally
> > reinforced frequencies when "struck" by a solo
> > truck emerging out of the quiet in the same
> > direction. The phasing rumbling drones of a
> > train, a high altitude jet, a single engine plane
> > or a Harley can be very mesmerizing, especially
> > when set in relief. The chords from these sources
> > can be more complex than those of a ship's horn;
> > what prejudice is it that can make a ship's horn
> > seem more pleasing?
> >
> > Multiple loud sources and pink noise "roars" like
> > those of compressors, jets and traffic confuse
> > the space. I have to be geared-up, mentally, to
> > find pleasures in the confusion, but some people
> > find this experience of space exhilarating, even
> > "communicative," in a limited sense.
> >
> > Any one know where can one get the graphite for
> > making historical nature mics? Rob D.
> >
> > =3D =3D =3D =3D
> >
> > At 11:13 AM -0700 9/4/05, Don Lloyd wrote:
> > >There are trainrecordists, of course. Don Hunter
> comes to mind:
> > >
> > >=20=20=20=20=20
> >
>
http://natural-history.uoregon.edu/Pages/dh_virtual_tour/home.html
> > >
> > >A major part of his legacy consists of many
> archival recordings of
> > steam
> > >locomotives all over the Pacific Northwest,
> captured in the 40=92s and
> > 50=92s
> > >when they were still operating. He wanted to
> preserve certain
> > soundscapes
> > >that he knew were vanishing. The recordings that
> are being done right
> > now
> > in
> > >Muir Woods and other parks will eventually have
> historic value as
> > well.
> > >While I can thoroughly enjoy listening to
> Hunter's recordings, just
> > now I
> > >can't imagine deriving pleasure from listening to
> airplanes.
> > >
> > >(In keeping with the microphone tech threads,
> I=92ll mention that Hunter
> > built
> > >his own mic=92s in the 30=92s, using cigar boxes and
> graphite.)
> > >
> > >-- Don
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From:
> > > On
> Behalf Of Lou Judson
> > >Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 5:19 PM
> > >To:
> > >Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] respectful,
> "topic" question
> > >
> > >Hmmm, are there trainrecordists too? Never mind.
> > >
> > ><L>
> > >On Sep 3, 2005, at 6:16 PM, Lou Judson wrote:
> > >
> > >> "Some railfans like to use the term
> Ferroequinology (the study of
> > the
> > >> Iron Horse)"
> > >>
> > >> which, while cute, is about as off topic as
> one can get!
> > >>
> > >> <L>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >"Microphones are not ears,
> > >Loudspeakers are not birds,
> > >A listening room is not nature."
> > >Klas Strandberg
> > >
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> > --
> > Rob Danielson
> > Film Department
> > University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
> >
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