At 10:02 AM -0700 9/5/05, Don Lloyd wrote:
>I recall that Don Hunter produced a couple of LPs in the 50's, featuring
>some very long takes of steam locomotives idling, braking, chuffing up ste=
ep
>grades and whistling down canyonways. Haven't come across any CD reissues,
>though. (I wonder if he edited out any bird calls or animal sounds as
>"noise.")
I'll be on look out for this material, Thanks.
>
>I believe some critters take advantage of pink noise 'confusing the space'=
,
>as you put it. Whilst recording in marshes, I've noticed frogs and red-win=
g
>blackbirds (among others) piping up when a jet plane blankets the area in
>pink noise, or when a diesel truck downshifts on a nearby hill. When the j=
et
>or truck fades away, the frog chorus has reached critical mass and continu=
es
>on its own for a while, only to eventually die down and await the next
>protective, predator-disorienting pink blanket.
Yes, all of us animals seem to be interacting
with human-made sounds in many ways that Bernie,
social psychologists and others have studied. The
ways humans hide within sound are really
elaborate. I've recorded predators and prey
moving under sonic cover of leaves rattling in
the wind and now I'm noticing that many captures
and disputes I record "break-out" at the peak of
or slightly following the peak volume of a
disruption like a passing truck, car, jet etc.
Owls will also chime in right after a long
disruption. Such observations might have been
"common sense" to a woodland resident even
couple of hundred years ago, but its still fun to
hear these messages. Rob D.
>
>Clearly, the real trick to enjoying machine sounds (and the dinosaur spiri=
ts
>dwelling therein) is being able to start and stop them at will. That's oka=
y
>for me, but my houseguests and neighbors might disagree. ;>)
>
>-- Don
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From:
> On Behalf Of Rob Danielson
>Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 11:50 AM
>To:
>Subject: RE: [Nature Recordists] historical recordings (was respectful,
>"topic" question
>
>Great link Don! Even the few, chopped whistles
>tweaked my full curiosity. I found myself
>longing to hear several different recordings of
>whistle blasts shrinking into valleys of Oregon.
>
>I wonder, what medium, other than sound, can
>claim to be a better historical record of the
>experience of space? Can't all animals can
>navigate by hearing where they are? Some species
>use local resonances to amplify their calls and
>sometimes its easier to hear these naturally
>reinforced frequencies when "struck" by a solo
>truck emerging out of the quiet in the same
>direction. The phasing rumbling drones of a
>train, a high altitude jet, a single engine plane
>or a Harley can be very mesmerizing, especially
>when set in relief. The chords from these sources
>can be more complex than those of a ship's horn;
>what prejudice is it that can make a ship's horn
>seem more pleasing?
>
>Multiple loud sources and pink noise "roars" like
>those of compressors, jets and traffic confuse
>the space. I have to be geared-up, mentally, to
>find pleasures in the confusion, but some people
>find this experience of space exhilarating, even
>"communicative," in a limited sense.
>
>Any one know where can one get the graphite for
>making historical nature mics? Rob D.
>
> =3D =3D =3D =3D
>
>At 11:13 AM -0700 9/4/05, Don Lloyd wrote:
>>There are trainrecordists, of course. Don Hunter comes to mind:
>>
>> http://natural-history.uoregon.edu/Pages/dh_virtual_tour/home.html
>>
>>A major part of his legacy consists of many archival recordings of steam
>>locomotives all over the Pacific Northwest, captured in the 40=92s and 50=
=92s
>>when they were still operating. He wanted to preserve certain soundscapes
>>that he knew were vanishing. The recordings that are being done right now
>in
>>Muir Woods and other parks will eventually have historic value as well.
>>While I can thoroughly enjoy listening to Hunter's recordings, just now I
> >can't imagine deriving pleasure from listening to airplanes.
>>
>>(In keeping with the microphone tech threads, I=92ll mention that Hunter
>built
>>his own mic=92s in the 30=92s, using cigar boxes and graphite.)
>>
>>-- Don
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From:
>> On Behalf Of Lou Judson
>>Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 5:19 PM
>>To:
>>Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] respectful, "topic" question
>>
>>Hmmm, are there trainrecordists too? Never mind.
>>
>><L>
>>On Sep 3, 2005, at 6:16 PM, Lou Judson wrote:
>>
>>> "Some railfans like to use the term Ferroequinology (the study of the
>>> Iron Horse)"
>>>
>>> which, while cute, is about as off topic as one can get!
>>>
>>> <L>
>>
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>--
>Rob Danielson
>Film Department
>University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
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>A listening room is not nature."
>Klas Strandberg
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