Sorry, I was thinking of your ambient pieces. For truly isolating
sounds, a dish is profound a shotgun is okay. Paul Dickinson uses his
Telinga in cities all the time. There are other nice DIY stereo dish
designs mentioned on this list as well. As for MS shotguns, maybe
consider setting up an arrangement with a dealer where they charge
the rental for a few pairs to try side by side for a weekend and take
it off the price of the pair you decide on. After you've listened to
the mics overa weekend, you can weigh other factors like how often
you'd deal with extended periods of humidty etc. Rob D.
At 6:59 PM +0200 9/2/05, derek holzer wrote:
>Hi Rob,
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>I'm basing my investigations on the sound samples Walter Knapp has
>published with his various M-S rigs:
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>http://frogrecordist.home.mindspring.com/docs/samples.html
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>My problem is usually not that I'm trying to get theat immersive Omni
>feel, but rather that I'm trying to pull a very specific sound out of it's
>surroundings a bit, and sometimes even reject certain enviornmental
>elements (cars on a motorway behind me, etc etc) while still having enough
>ambience and stereo image. The frog recordings Walter did with his 30/60
>setup sound pretty close to what I am going for. (The Telinga recordings
>are nice too, but I have a feeling the Telinga is too sensitive for
>anything except nature recordings, and I'm also not sure I want to carry a
>big dish around!)
>
>I'll look at the Schoeps option as well, but I'd like to know where the
>failing point for them is in terms of humidity. Taking them to the forest
>in Brazil, for example, might be out right?
>
>d.
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>> Seems like you' could be contemplating a signficant investment. To
>> my ears, the trade-off between the "up-front" shot-gun sound in the
>> middle is less spatial definition compared to using a cardioid or an
>> omni. When I use an mkh-60 as a Mid, I can't get an even spread of
>> the high frequencies across the stereo field. The Mid mic often
>> contributes more character to a final MS mix because the Side figure
>> 8 capsule usually has less low Hz response and its mixed at a lower
>> level. If you've preferred the character of omni-directional mics in
>> the past, don't hesitate to try an omni as a Mid too. Rob D.
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>"Microphones are not ears,
>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>A listening room is not nature."
>Klas Strandberg
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Rob Danielson
Film Department
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
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