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Pickerel ID in KVR

Subject: Pickerel ID in KVR
From: Rob Danielson <>
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 00:34:52 -0500
At 7:26 PM -0400 7/20/05, Walter Knapp wrote:
>From: Rob Danielson <>
>
>>  The rig was 20-25 yards back from a ~15 foot drop off to the river.
>>  Sounds from the nearest bank of the river would be indirect. The far
>>  side of the river is another 10 yards; those sounds are direct. So,
>>  its 30-35 yards, center of the field, to the far river bank. There's
>>  a large wetland a bit beyond the river. I haven't walked over this
>>  year, but its unlikely there would be open water from the wetland
>>  closer than 80-100 yards.
>>
>
>It's probably the river. Anyway they seem to be left of the mics. Most
>likely direct sound. Which would make them far side of the river. 80-100
>yards seems far for the performance of these mics.
>
>Pickerels call floating in the water, not from shore. Their preference
>seems to be in floating weeds on the deepwater side. Though I've seen
>them call over clear deepwater.

No weeds in the river there at all. Banks are exposed rock or eroded,
bare mud to the water line, No reeds etc. Current is pretty fast.
The frog call seems to the lack of reflections that are in the
splashes from that part the river.  He could very well be in the
wetland. We'll do some more exploring. I'll keep looking for a better
sample recording too.

>  >
>>  http://www.midwestfrogs.com/
>>  I used the northern leopard sample above as the best match I could
>>  come up with for calls at ;03, 1;14 ; 2:09 and 2:25 of the
>>  10.9mb/7minute mp3 version.  Would be great to get the spots you're
>>  hearing the pickerels.
>>  Rob D.
>
>I've had a lot of correspondence with the guy doing that site. He's not
>a frog expert and comes to me for ID's sometimes. It's a nice idea
>trying to do actual video.
>
>I don't really have much time to spend on this right now. I'm so far
>behind that I can't even see the tunnel to see the light at the end of.
>
>It's only going to be settled by going out there and grabbing some of
>them, or at least spotting them. I'm surprised that pickerels should be
>considered rare there, I saw a number of them when I was up there.
>
>Walt
>
>

--
Rob Danielson
Film Department
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee


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